BlackBerry 6: Inside the NEW BlackBerry Browser

[...] WebKit browser on a Torch yesterday but RIM created a nice write up on both their developer and consumer blogs. They even covered one of the features that I could not manage to photograph which is the [...]

zzzz. no storm2 support and not enough for all of OS 6 to compete the way it needs to. also, a 624mhz processor in the Torch? Seriously? Who’s smokin what in Waterloo? you guys have to step it up or get stepped on. you just lost the top OS spot in the US to Android. wake up.

looking forward for this

What if I’m on a BES? Will I be able to change my default browser to go through my carrier not my BES? I can do that now.

[...] Head over to Inside BlackBerry to get the full scoop on the new webkit browser in BlackBerry 6 [...]

Im in for the beer.

very cool. Welcome to 2008 rim, glad you finally made it.

[...] full details be sure to check out the Inside BlackBerry blog post or see the rest of the overview images after the [...]

[...] off the new BlackBerry Browser, which is based on the WebKit rendering engine, and its features on The Official BlackBerry Blog — Inside BlackBerry. We have previously seen the WebKit-based BlackBerry Browser in action.According to the Senior [...]

[...] here to read for yourself and don’t forget to let us know what you [...]

I think we all owe you a beer! The browser looks great and was well worth the wait to be released when it was done. Amazing job again RIM

cant wait to use it on my bb bold !!

Will the browser have full functionality on the 9700? When do you expect, roughly, for OS6 to roll out for the 9700 to carriers (knowing that carriers will adjust time lines and determine if they'll release it).

I’m very excited about this new WebKit. Finally a better browser.

I'm pleased that the browser is becoming enhanced. That is, I will be once I hear absolute confirmation that the 9700 on Rogers (Canada) will be getting the update. The problem with RIM is the big secrecy as to who is getting what combined with RIMs suprisingly lack of support for its existing devices that some of which are less then 4 months old. RIM should be much more outright with what is coming, when is it coming exactley, and which providers will it be working with. Likewise, it's all great to hype a new operating system – but if it doesnt work on any phone that is less than a year old; then who cares – u just allienated your own fan base. Sorry for being so negative, but I'm really tired of lack of support that RIM shows existing phone users.

How will the “Automatic Font Size Adjustment” feature work wirh trackpad devices like the 9650?

Will I get this browser on my Storm 2? If not, I'm afraid its bye-bye Blackberry!

I hope this makes it to the Storm 2

How do you do that now?

When does BB6 software come out?

We should start a RIM group that get together every other month and just snicker about our BlackBerry Smartphones. Let me know who is in for Waterloo…

I'm game for doing it at http://www.huetherhotel.com/ awesome patio with microbrewery attached.

We should start a RIM group that get together every other month and just snicker about our BlackBerry Smartphones. Let me know who is in for Waterloo…

I'm game for doing it at http://www.huetherhotel.com/ awesome patio with microbrewery attached.

[...] sosial, menu pilihan, dan tampilan browser semua termasuk dalam pembaharuan itu. Silahkan masuk ke halaman blog mereka untuk mecari tahu detail dari browser tersebut. Bookmark It Hide Sites [...]

Go into the browser.
Press Blackberry button and go into Options.
Go into Browser Configuration.
Change Browser from Blackberry Browser to Internet Browser.
Save.

Go into the browser.
Press Blackberry button and go into Options.
Go into Browser Configuration.
Change Browser from Blackberry Browser to Internet Browser.
Save.

Bye Bye! You want this better browsing experience optimized either for a capacitive touchscreen device or NON-TouchScreen device – for a device that is click screen and already has its own issues?! Sorry dude that Storm was horrible – and sucks to be you for believing the carrier hype on Verizon for pushing it: its the CDMA carrier fault as they pushed RIM to making it.

Upgrade and keep what you know is unique to quality experience on a BlackBerry that no other HH provides.

Dude READ the press release: 9700, 9650, and 9100 are ALL getting BlackBerry 6 with Webkit engine in a few months or less; carrier approval of course. If you’re on Windows just google/yahoo for updates that are leaked by carriers testing them as always.

I’ll take the GreyHound there JUST for patio & brewery and good laughs.

Mike. Congratulations on your Team. A few comments and hopes:
1. will this eliminate issues with downloading images for html emails (the constant warning of your email address will be exposed)?!
2. Can we STILL bookmark current viewed pages, highlighted links within an existing page; all while creating a new subfolder/folder for the bookmark being created on the fly?! If not you BETTER bring this back! This is unique to the BB and I want this function always, PLEASE!
3. will other apps take advantage of webkit.

And future articles focusing on Webkit Engine & Browser for secure banking access, payments, transfers etc?!

Thanks.

What about HTML5 support?

Great Thats Really Amazing ..RIM is Put it efforts in it

I've literally just got the New BB pearl- how do I get the new browser, is it an automatic thing? Very frustrating when it is less than a week old!

[...] Inside BlackBerry, Mike takes us on a stroll through the WebKit browser. It’s basically everything you need to [...]

is it going to fix my 9630 ??

when are you going to make chat available through facebook application? Its ok to be able to message etc. but would be wonderful to be able to chat with my friends.

Blackberry is old news…..come December I'm getting the HTC EVO. BB doesn't compare in any way.

Android isn't all it is cracked up to be, even with a 1Ghz processor.

is the browser good enough to support lets say google wave?

I hope I get this for my bb curve 8330 *crosses finger*

ID make the drive for that…! IM rocking a replacement 8703E !!! WOOT

Oh man, I so want that Blackberry when it comes out in Aus.

Will all of the Blackberry's be updates with this Browser? E.g. I have a 8520 – Can I cstill get it or is it just for new mobiles!

they said no, so I am also thinking to say goodbye to BlackBerry…

and full flash will be supported when?

is it compatible with the bb tour 9630? also what is the release date?

is the new technology available to download onto an older model black berry, or do we need to upgrade the equipment as well…i have the 8350i with nextel…i am assuming NO is the answer….waiting for the torch to come out and then i will probably upgrade…will the Torch have the new brower capabilities???

Will this keep my 8900 from random reboots or freezing up?

About time something good comes out. Seriously, I'm about to switch to the iphone. Blackberrys are so slow and unreliable. and there are no good good apps at all.

Until it actually comes out, I don't really give a dam n. Sick of the hype and ready for the product.

I think it's better for RIM to take it's time and get it right. Unlike the mess Apple has created with the Iphone4.

Are we going to get Flash support with this?

I need this for my Blackberry asap. Its sounds wonderful and I tend to use my browser a lot.

It's often not RIM that's neglectful of updates but your service provider. Rogers is notorious for this, while companies like Bell, MTS, and in the UK Vodafone, all have release software updates for existing phones.

will this new browser be available for current blackberry devices…i got a Sorm 2 9550 ?

Impatient d'avoir ce nouveau navigateur !! =)

Their getting people all excited about the new version. But know one knows what phones or carriers it will be available for. I was in the process to buy the 9700, but whats the point in buying a newer phone then when os 6 comes out it probably won't be available for it. So I'm waiting for it's release date and if it doesn't apply to the new phone then SO LONG BLACKBERRY AND HELLO ANDROID!

when is it coming out and how can we get it on our phones??

When can Bold 9700 get this?

Ouch that hurts I use to use one of those too

I hear it will be available for Storm 2 as a upgrade but there maybe a function or two not available on the storm 2 and only on torch and newer Blackberrys. I hope its a full OS and our Storm 2s will take the upgrade. I just want a date when its coming out.

I look forward to it, if it's available on my 8320. I know I have this old relic, 2 years old. I get tired of getting my hopes up, and finding out, “only this carrier has the ” or only this model.

what models will have the blackberry os 6?

I know there are many out there who aren't happy with their BB but, I miss mine. I went to a Palm thinking it would be better for my business. Hot Spot access, better integration with Outlook Calendar. Those two features are great; however, I've lost the ability for voice dial. There is no true one-touch dialing with Palm. My Hot Spot access is great though. My kids can access their laptops and/or Ipods while I have it turned on. Bad part is my phone gets so hot I'm afraid it will fry not to mention any calls knocks everyone offline. Worse part? It will randomly butt dial. Not the last person you call like many… but my CEO 3 hours after I talked to him or my daughter's friend's dad at 7am. Now, I only had the Pink Curve but I had such high hopes for Palm. I still have my BB and look at it longingly but with all the fuss of pulling my information to my Palm, I don't want to go through that again. I think I will just wait till I'm upgradeable and go back to a BlackBerry. Oh, and the keys on my Palm don't always work right. They will skip or come up with double or triple even when I don't need it. Palm web is good but the things that I need for work aren't available on Palm. =(

This is a welcome change!

will this software be available for blackberry curve 8900?

idk if its just my phone but whenever i go on the internet it freezes my whole home screen! getting this Blackberry was the worst thing i could'ave done..my Android was much better!

I'm new to the BB community and would like more info on the BB Browser 6

will it work for the bold 9000???

Great OS, I wish it would become available for my Storm 9530. I've only had this phone for 8 months. I DO like this phone – less problems than my prior phones. How was I to know that it would be obsolete this soon. Please RIM, let us old timers feel like we matter so we continue to buy/use your product for years to come. If not, sad to say, I'm jumping ship!

This may have been answered already, but will OS 6 be available for the blackberry bold 9700 for at&t?

nope

saying so long to blackberry as well

is there gonna be an update for 6 on my curve 8530?

WHAT?? NO BROWSER LIKE ON THE STORM??

i hope they make the upgrade for the new curve 8530

Nice to get a real switch back story on here and the reasons why you did it. Great to know and you are welcome back any time

Huh? I like my Storm 2 and its click screen. I don't know what “issues” you are referring to. I did expect to get the webkit browser this year, and if RIM is not deploying it to the Storm 2, I am leaving for Droid X.

Although the new OS looks nice and has great functionality limiting it to just a few of the new phones is just not going to go over big with many BB users. I mean the storm 2 should be able to handle this software but its not on the plan. Why release a great software and limit it to a few phones, why to sell more of those phones . Cmon RIM lets show some support to the customers who have already bought your phones. Dont be like everyone else and let greed run your business model. step up to the plate

Too bad you have out-softwared most of your hardware. This is the last straw for me RIM. You have finally lost a lot of us. Good bye and good riddance. Maybe you will buy back my Storm from me.

when is it going to be available for Verizon customers???

When is it coming???

between the blackberry storm 2 and blackberry bold 9650 which is better can some body help ive got the driod x and hate it its not what its made out to be for sure

if not available for old device, bye-bye BLACKBERRY!

Let us know how it goes and when you realize you need to upgrade and come back.

Android is way better than the blackberry OS. Hands down.

Yes it will……probably in August.

WE have 70 or so Blackberries at our Company. I personally have problems keying on a physical keypad because of my eyesight, when I got the Storm with the touch screen keypad I was excited because I could see the keypad much better. I ended up getting rid of the Storm because the touchscreen keypad was too sensitive. Has this been improved ????

It is great that you are talking so much about Blackberry 6 however, for users who cannot afford another Blackberry it would be nice to tell other users (Tour Model) how the new upgrade will affect their device. I also have learned that the Torch will not be available on the Verizon network. Please when you discuss the upgrades it would be wonderful if you could tell all the users how the upgrade will be on their device.

pop another iphone fanboy pill why don't you?

Can the 8520 do this?

so when is this supposed to be coming out….

When will it be available for the Bold 9700, 9650, and the Pearl 9100??

Great article and LOVE the look of the new browser! Can't wait!

Will this be made available for Blackberry Curve 8350i

Will it support Flash yet?

All the trolls hanging out here.
The new 6.0 OS requires more onboard memory to run properly. New units have 512mb on board. Older units have 256mb. Ive used almost every BB device out there with NO PROBLEMS. We start on RIM asking for a better browser and they develop it. Now we are breaking their balls because it wont work with our old device? Come on- go to Droid whomever and we will see you back soon

We all commonly pay 80ish dollars every month for our service. Then we complain about having to pay for our device

hopefully they do, but i still like my blackberry 9700

When can I get it on my Storm 2?

when does the Curve 8520 get this

Will this be released on the BB Storm 9500?

can the bold 9000 get this?

when will blackberry 6 be available?

So what. Blackberry sucks. It's very rudimentary for a “smartphone.”

Why isn't the TOUR getting this OS6!!!

The touchscreen on all Storms can be adjusted. Goto the RIM support page to get step by step instructions.

[...] is the senior product manager responsible for browser development on BlackBerry 6, in a post on the Inside BlackBerry blog. “Powered by the new WebKit rendering engine, the browsing experience is enjoyable, and the [...]

when is this new blackberry 6 software going to be available for verizon blackberry phones? cause i want it reeealllllllyyyyyy badly. just wondering if anyone had any thoughts about it.

I've heard the same and also why I think I will be leaving BB. I had the Curve 8330 originally, went to Storm, and now on Storm2 as of just six months so I have to wait a year and half to get a new upgrade. At that point in time I feel Android will be my choice.

Actually by NOT leaving us out they are likely to increase the number of loyal users and benefit their bottom line. My Storm (9530) came with a 2 year contract and there's no way I'm going to upgrade equipment needlessly mid-contract. Nice features; I wish they would make it to me too–on the current gear.

will i get this on Blackberry Storm2 ?

One more year to go till I can get a new phone on Sprint, but until then… will Blackberry 6.0 be available for the Curve 8330?

Still no Flash support

when will blackberry os 6 be available for downloads?

Got a 8900 expecting to have the BB 6 upgrade. Not even the Storm2 is getting it. What the hell, RIM? It used to be good with the global roaming advantages and the overall messaging-focused system. Anyway, I think I don't think I'm going to last more than six months before I get another phone. Not BB this time. BB OS 6 has been my main reason to get other people switch over BlackBerry and now I look like an idiot seeing how even devices released after the BB6 was known to be announced 'at some point', with enough horsepower, are left in the hole with BB5 devices. Yikes.

Well done!

One more interested in a browser upgrade for Curve 8330, if possible. Even if not fully featured, wd still be improvement. All other BB features are lean, mean and great.

you twit. there is no “mess” with the iPhone 4. why don't you watch the press conference Steve Jobs had. and apple does take their time to get it right. one of steve jobs most famous quotes it “we may not be the first to do it, but we are the first to get it right.” i have a blackberry and am very happy with it, but in terms of touch screens, iPhone is the BEST out there.

Who are you calling a twit, twit? Apple did get it wrong. They have to send out cases to every iPhone 4 users that requests it because they screwed up. They don’t do this kind of thing for fun. There is a problem and now Apple put a Band-Aid on it and was like “Were not perfect!” damn right you're not and devices like this prove who the leaders are in quality.

Until RIM says no this exact device does not get an upgrade stop speculating. But in your case you got a free phone with your contract and now you're whining? You buy a cheap devices cause that’s what you as a consumer wanted, then you cry cause no one will take you seriously! Buy a high end device. The lower end models were built to keep consumers happy so they could have a BlackBerry too but not have to pay $199 for it. You get what you paid for man.

love my storm

Very impressive. However, do we, the existing Blackberry holders, be able to upgrade to OS 6? I own a Storm2.

I also REALLY hope the OS 6 makes it to the Storm 2. The video clips of the new webkit browser were the reason I chose the Storm 2 over the iPhone, only 4 weeks ago. If not the entire OS, PLEASE add the new webbrowser to the Storm 2 functionalities!

I really hope so. It would be crazy for them not to provide the update to us. This phone is less than a year old, and not give a phone that's this new an updated software is insane.

Come on Blackberry ….give us a phone that competes with the I-phone and Droid …. I need a phone with Wi-fi, fantastic resolution and most of all a 6+ megapixal camera. I like your OS and the fact you directly sync to Outlook, but it seems you are becoming a dinosaur in a field that requires up to date technology. I am ready for a new phone and I may need to give up the Blackberry for something with more up to date apps. Really really hate to …but you haven't been keeping up with the apps us Realtors could really use …

Will the Blackberry 6 be made available for the Blackberry Tour 9630 model??

haha, it's funny how people still think iphone is the best, maybe if you like a lack of options and problems that they won't admit to and try to somehow blame on you.

Are you a bloody moron? They released a phone that barely works unless you hold it with chopsticks. Apple isn't the first to do anything, nor do they get anything “right.” Nobody cares about which phone you talk to your twitty greasy boyfriend on, nor about your opinion

instead of teasing us, why dont you send out the upgrade already?! making us bb users look like a nobody compared to the droid and iphone!

[...] Woche irgendwie übersehen habe, über den neuen Webkit-Browser zu berichten. Im offiziellen BlackBerry Weblog Inside BlackBerry gab es einen ziemlich ausführlichen Einblick in den kommenden Browser. Mit der neuen OS-Generation [...]

Uhhhm Apples iPhone is one big mess…. It's horrid. iPhones are over rated.. I've had one. I've tested an iPhone 4. It crashes more then the previous models. It's also got other issues. I wouldn't get one until the next gen. It will be much much better then iPhone 4 First generation.

That’s also why they fired Mark Papermaster and made it look like he quit.

http://arstechnica.com/apple/news/2010/08/mark-…

Do you even know what is considered standard? 6+ Megapixles? The only phone that I know of is the Nokia N86 that has a 8MP camera and that is only because the phone it nothing but a PDA and camera.

I can see screen resolution point but most people cannot tell the difference between 2x the pixel density, the screen size would still be the same but picture would look crisper. Since RIM has introduced the zoom capabilities there is no real need to be that high of a resolution. Sure it's nice to have but what is it that you do that requires such a high resolution. And please give a different answer that is something other than “Well others have it why cannot RIM?” RIM does not just put things in the phone because others do it. If there is a real reason or need for it other than keeping up with the jones who cares. I bet you I could put 2 screens in front of you and you would never tell the difference. The big difference is power consumption, 2x the pixel density means more power required to put the same picture on the screen. This is also why we don’t have heavy batteries in our devices.

i was wondering if there will be an upgrade for the blackberry curve 8530

when is 6 coming to curve i just got mine a few months ago?

If you're going to make a comment about a device then PLEASE people do your research thoroughly! FWIW I am a proud owner of a 9700 and it's my go to device when I text, e-mail, phone. It's one of the best crackberries RIM has made and I use it even for media (BTW this thing takes amazing photos considering it's limitations). Now back to my original point, to all those who are bashing the iPhone, it's not that I'm a fan of the thing, but I HATE it when people make statements that show that they haven't even used a product or use poor examples to tear down a product. My wife has the iPhone 4 and I'm not sure what Pfff_noway was doing with his/her iPhone, but we've never experienced a single crash with it. I wouldn't even know what a crash would look like on an iPhone 4 and my wife has been using hers constantly (downloading apps, installing apps, downloading books, reading books, playing music, multi-tasking, creating a Word doc, etc). As for the “antenna gate” that issue was severely blown out of proportion by the media and every iPhone hater ate it up. My wife has tried it, I've tried it and yes the bars do go down IF your signal was weak in the first place i.e. inside your house. If the signal is strong the bars may go down one level, but that's with that “death grip”. Holding it in the death grip makes your fingers cover up the screen and thus get in the way of your face when making a call — who does that? I'm getting tired of getting misinformation of products by people who have no clue as to what they are talking about. It's like comparing OS 6 to iOS to Android. Blackberry is a totally different type of smartphone when compared to the other two and I think RIM shouldn't have tried to “copy” too much of what the others have.

the htc evo 4g has an 8 mp camera with flash

Seriously you need an 8MP camera in a phone? What the heck are you doing with it? It's nice I would love one too but wow that’s over kill.

Can I ask one simple question? Why did Apple fight so hard for its IBM fought for executive engineer just to turn around and fire him, then offer free cases for every user that wants them? Apple has admitted there is a problem. You cannot say that Apple does not have a problem because Steve Job's himself said that it is a problem but it's okay cause so does every other phone. If this statement is true then why is Apple the only manufacturer sending out free cases to everyone? Do you know what that will cost Apple?

I'm not trying to bash at all, There are 2-3 iPhone 4 devices in the office and I can get the bars to drop by just gating the antenna using a simple hold. Yes its only 1 or 2 bars but some people liv/work in 1 or 2 bar areas and that is not acceptable. The death grip again is an issue with all phones but its 101 in antenna making, It cannot be blocked or else it won't work. I could put any antenna in a box, let's call it a house for fun and the bars drop on every phone, GSM more than CDMA in my experiences. Why to show the world what we know already Jobs, all Steve Jobs proved is that if you block the signal with your hand the bars go down which again is antenna making 101.

Ouch, that sucks.

It's funny how everyone wants the most intuitive OS possible that runs as fast as possible, but they also want it to run on an outdated device they bought 2-3 years ago.

Maybe he likes to print off 10″x12″ photos for his portfolio?

I would like to see them improve IQ(iamge quality) not increase megapixels. After all you only need ~3megapixels to print a 5×7 at 300px/in

Would love to see that too. I have not tested image quality yet for the devices. Good idea again just because the number is bigger does not mean its better.

And its not blackberry… Blackberry/Rim if not already fallen behind, is falling behind in the market. There is no feature on the Blackberry that isnt on an HTC, or iPhone. I have the original storm, and ill tell you what if they don't give me OS 6 im switching to the HTC incredible. I would switch to the iphone but I like Verizon to much.

RIM is falling falling behind because why? Because they don't look like an iPhone or HTC? Are theses really your basses for how you can tell if someone is “falling behind” The BlackBerry is not an iPhone/HTC/Droid it is not. Just because they share features like installing applications, have a phone, can send and receive email, this does not make them the same! That is like comparing me to Steve Job's and saying ” Well he's not Steve Jobs” just because I'm a human does not force me to be the same as every other human I am different and I am glad I'm different so is RIM. They have technology and an infrastructure behind it that Apple/Google/HTC only wish they though of first. SO no these other phones don't have what the BlackBerry has and never will but as a consumer you only want a flashy toy so you will never be happy with RIM.

Once you relize the simplicity of the BlackBerry you will be back.

I believe most people upset on here, have recently bought there phones. Mine is only 2 months old, and I'm not getting updates. I'm in agreement with most people who just got there phones, that it would be nice to have something new too. Not asking for the world…just offer us stuff too.

I agree and I believe RIM will take care of most users of high end phones like the Storm 2 and Bold but I would not expect a full version of the OS on them as the memory is just not capable of holding the OS. As well people who got free phones or only paid $29 can't expect to get upgrades. There was a reason why they were that cheap and it was because there are what they are don’t expect anything more out of it.

As a use of both a Blackberry Storm 9530 and an Android HTC Eris. Both have their advantages and disadvantages. As for the IPhone, android is running circles around apple. and 6 for BB is supposed to give it a run too. But i’m sure you’ll still be happy to know that Apple has publicly declared that AT&T no longer has exclusive rights to the Iphone. Verizon and Apple have been talking for a good while now and optimistically the IPhone should be on the VZW network by January.

whats with you iphonians always criticizing bb users for making a poor choice on owning a bb, unlike you i prefer texting with buttons, you my friend can go make sign languages with your touch screen.. you look like a bunch of morons throwing gang signs at your iphone's.. terms of touchscreens iphone hands down lol

but blackberry has the same problem with some of its phones, and they didn't send out free cases to everybody. its a common issue with a lot of phones, and apple has had the best response so far in terms of helping satisfy customers.

Every article I have read say the Storm and Storm II will NOT be able to upgrade to the new OS6. How can this new OS that is designed for a touch screen model not be available for the original touch screen model??? I'll be switching to an Android if that doesn't change!!!!

When will Verizon have the Blackberry 6??

So tell me how do you block the signal on the sides of the phone like you do with the iPhone when the antenna is on the back of the device. Open a BlackBerry and look at the black tape on the case. That is the antenna. BlackBerry does not and never will have the same problem as the iPhone has. Unless you take the back off the phone and hold your fingers from antenna point to antenna point. Apple has done a good job with their Kool-Aid this time around. No one else has the problem they do, to be specific when you hold the phone a certain way you bridge the antenna point together effectively killing the antenna. What all other phones suffer from is something called Attenuation. If you block a signal it will drop in intensity. Like a point I made earlier it’s the same things the wall in your house does but because your had is around all point of the antenna it effects it more. So again until someone can show me prof that holding the BlackBerry normally will kill the signal just like the iPhone does, stop listening to the media and get an opinion of your own. Don’t believe things blindly..

When will BlackBerry 6 be available on the Tour model. I can't stand the current browser and I am ready to chuck it and move up to something that has something that approaches a real browser. It's pretty obvious that security is no longer secure given RIM's decision to cave it to foreign government's request to snoop. So what is the advantage? This new browser had better be a knockout and available on the Tour or I'm otta here.

Does anyone has any idea, when OS 6 will be available in Europe?

will this OS be available for the Storm 2??? if so will it be a software update or will i have to buy a new phone

my biggest grievance with Blackberries is a rather low-tech one, compared to web browser issues…I'd really like Blackberries to include the “unread message alert” that my Windows Smartphone, and every other phone made in the 21st century, has.

it doesn't make sense to me that the functionality of the “BB Alerts” app isn't built into the OS and I have to pay extra to get it.

all the other phones I've ever had will nag me until I've read my new messages. Blackberries vibrate once and then go silent. since I keep mine in the holster almost all the time, that blinking light on top does me NO good if I don't read the message as soon as it comes in (like when I'm driving and can't stop to read new messages).

Spot on! – I am a Blackberry user but switched to the Iphone for short amount of time, I just couldnt get used to the touch screen typing, and the battery life was dire when connecting to my Exchange infrastructure I also tried the HTC desire I gave it two days then sold it on Ebay. I'm now back to my trusted Curve.

you said it right

TOUCHSCREENS

everything else is a jungle of mess

You have an original Storm? isn't that phone like 2 1/2 years old? If they don't give you the newest software update you're going to switch phones? That's like saying I have a laptop that I bought 2 years before Windows 7 came out but if they don't upgrade me from Windows XP to 7 I'm buying a mac. You want BB 6 get a new BB…duh!?!

i am a new user of blackberry ,currently using a 9700.
i would like to suggest that,instead of upgrade the os to 6 ,
i hope rim can develop a lot more apps for user(both free and paid),it is extremely less for me,and i am not a heavy downloader

tq

Well, you sure are taking your time about letting your users get it for their BlackBerrys. This is one of the reasons I am thinking of getting an Android phone. Too slow to move forward and poor on customer service.

so when can i expect blackberry 6 to come free to all blackberry users?

Hi,

We are unable to discuss unreleased products. Keep an eye on http://www.blackberry.com for updates.

Thank you

i sure would like to give the blackberry torch a test drive… i had the blackberry bold 9000, great phone. loved it… then you came out with the bold 9700, i got it… now.. i want to try the torch…

There has been frustration by many bb owners having to watch other smart phones have excellent browsers. My first bb was a curve, when I had my first chance to upgrade at T mobile I was intent on getting a different smart phone due to the poor bb browser, that was two months ago. I was told by Tmobile that I couldn't grandfather my payment plan if I went with a non bb phone, I really want a better browser but couldn't afford to have my monthly charges increase, sooo, I went with the 9700 and continue to wish I had what many consider standard browsing capabilities. I have 16 long months before I can upgrade again. I will remember how long it took to get OS6 on my 9700 and if things go as usual, for whatever reasons, slow release to carriers then slow release by carriers, I will probably leave the bb world and jump on the android satge and probably for good, if OS6 get releases soon to those of us that have tried to stay loyla but see soo many other smart phone browser work so well, it will be easy toleave bb behind. I really like the quality of my 9700 but mainly I browse, it is not a pleasurable thing with web pages that do not render well and are difficult to read. My wife was using bb bold but tired iphone 3 only to find the battery life is idiotic at best, so in the next few days she will make her choice at ATT over torch or galaxy, I'd like to her stay with torch but samsung galaxy looks so much better,

I also am kind of stuck in a contract for the moment. I will not support RIM any further than I have to. I bought their “top line toy” which is buggy at best, and now instead of trying to support the Storm line, I actually have to downgrade to an earlier OS to solve a sound issue. I don't think I should have to buy a new phone for the OS upgrade either. Sell me the OS for a reduced price but don't make me get a new phone. Or is RIM admitting they have no idea how to make a good touch screen phone work.

i have an unlocked torch and with digicel in Guyana. i can do anything but browse on their netwrk…i can only browse with a wifi connection… any advice on how i can browse on the netwrk? they tried configuring my fone to wrk on their netwrk but still the browser didnt wrk…

It looks like you and all the other people that buy Apple believe that this Steve Jobs is a god. This is the worst any person can go, believe that this guy is a god.

Apple computers are good for the graphics, nothing else, and Apple are for women.

i have bb 9700 n i been trying in many different ways to update it and get os6 but wireless and computer it says theres not a new update for my device.. what can i do about this?

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Has anyone received an explanation, other than, just because, as to the reason that the BB 9500 Storm II, will not be getting the new OS 6.0?

I work for a very large insurance company and I have used a BlackBerry for years for business. I have switched to the Iphone4 and I find the Iphone way more useful then the BlackBerry. The Browser on the BlackBerry has always been almost completely useless. I am glad they are improving the browser but I wouldn't judge it's usefulness on pictures in this article; I would have to see it in action and see if it can perform. Either way I don't see myself ever going back to the BlackBerry, it can’t match the functionality and integration of the applications on the Iphone that I use to conduct business everyday.

i just replaced my cracked blackberry lcd screen, it doesn't function properly,it showed a bunch of multicolored bars across the screen. can anyone tell me whats the problem?

STFU, Otgradio.

Fan boy…..

Fan boy…..

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You do have to realize that this is a 2 years old device. I understand the want the capabilities to run this new OS, but you need to also have some understanding that it is an older device. Also just to update your statement on ” There is no feature on the Blackberry that isn’t on an HTC, or iPhone” here are a few just to refresh your memory:

Secure email and data (AES or Triple DES) http://na.blackberry.com/eng/ataglance/security/features.jsp
MVS seamless phone system integration to current PBX systems http://na.blackberry.com/eng/services/blackberry_mvs/server.jsp
Push email
Push software from the BES server
Security policies controlled by BES
BlackBerry Messenger (This is RIM device dependent so not fair to list)
Remote management of all company devices
Ability with native software to wipe/locate the device
100% not restricted integration to Enterprise mail server like Exchange and Lotus (not a restricted 3rd party made ActiveSync connection with 4 options)

I would continue but you get the point and also let me add all this is natively baked into the BlackBerry OS not add on programs to add the functionality.

So Mrcnry I would like to reiterate the question back to you… other than higher graphic games what is it that Google or Apple have that the BlackBerry does not that is not device independent?

So – when will this great new OS be available for purchase?? I thought it was suposed to be Q3 2010. tick tock..

So – when will this great new OS be available for purchase?? I thought it was suposed to be Q3 2010. tick tock..

Gtfo if you don’t like it.

I think again, that people are too narrow minded, and believe too much of what they read. Almost all these features are available on most devices, except for Push notifications, which is only supported on iPhone and Blackberry. yes, iPhone has push notifications… Security policies, remote management, software wipe, etc can all be done with most smartphones, as long as you have native exchange support, which most devices have… The only big benefit, is the battery life, and this is because BB is the only device that uses push notifications for mail, thanks to BES. Attachement handling and browsing on Blackberry is not near as good as on iPhones for example, however, Blackberry comes at a very comparitive price, and I do not think comparing the two devices makes sence in any event… The features might be shared, but they are going for two completely different markets…

I don’t understand your response because no other phone has these without the use of 3rd party software… All I listed below is built in to the core of the system.

Can you explain how the iPhone does Triple DES END to END
How do other phones have prefect tie in to voice systems not just call forwarding to your cell but actually letting you transfer to extensions and use your BB as a true extension of your work phone
Push software no one else can do from a secure point like BES
Security policy’s? Sure you can send a password or a wipe remotely but what about the 1000s of features you can control from BES that no one else can

Sorry I don’t get how other devices do this already??

Hi – i bought my torch on saturday, and on monday my browser decided to stop loading. i even turned it off/on, and it didn’t help. I am back to yanking the battery – i got tired of this on my Pearl, but do i have to do it on my brand new Torch too? is it just a config issue (i hope?)

Hello,

Can you clarify what I happening to the browser? Are you receiving any errors when going to the websites? Have you tried clearing your cache and cookies and then attempt to browse? http://www.blackberry.com/btsc/KB03865

Blackberry 6.0 is a disaster. I have seen it actually delete calendar items in Outlook on the compute it synchs with. Create an extra calendar which then drives the end user crazy because half their appointments are on one calendar and half end up on another calendar. It is a nightmare for our IT staff. We stopped allowing the upgrade to occur and ended up uninstalling it off about 5 users computers, jumping through hoops to clean up the mess and reinstalling version 5 which worked fine. Who cares about social networking when you are trying to run a business, not play games with something meant more for personal use like facebook and twitter.

false. android destroys ios4 ,and samsung glaxayS eats iphone 4

is this for the curve 8530?

Hello shiggy,

Support for OS 6 will be determined at a later date. Keep an eye on http://www.blackberry.com for updates.

Thanks.

Question & Comments regarding the Torch….
>What is the button on the top across from the screen lock?
>Why did you change the USB cable size? Most of us are upgrading from earlier model and now all our chargers and cables must be replaced.
>Why no case? Often my BB will end up in a pants pocket with my keys and could be scratched.
>You shrunk the keyboard from the size of my 9000 Bold just enough to make typing difficult.
> Why did you do away with the voice command button on the left side?
> What happened to AT&T Media Net?

Hi Barry,

The top button on the right hand side of the BlackBerry is the mute button.

The BlackBerry has been using the micro USB cable since the release of the BlackBerry Storm in 2008

There are now cases available at http://www.shopblackberry.com

The keyboard is actually the same size as the BlackBerry 8800 series, Bold 9700 and Bold 9650

There is a convenience key located on the right hand side of the BlackBerry Torch which you can set up for Voice Dialing if you wish

Carriers control their own WAP services such as “AT&T Media Net”

Appreciate the reply. Just so I understand, there is now one less convenience key than I had on the Bold so I now have to decide if I want to use the remaining key for the camera or voice dialing.
Also, don’t know if this is your area of expertise, but with each release of the desktop manger, is becomes less functional. Two things in particular – in pre-6 versions it gave you a directory tree so you could drag and drop files, pix, music etc from your PC to your BB (I don’t want to sync them). Also, it doesn’t show any applications that can be added – may because it hasn’t been updated for the Torch?
(Wanna buy two old car chargers, 3 travel chargers, and a bunch of USB cables?)

RIM is a sorry company for not making this software available for the Curve.

Hello Barry,

That is correct there is 1 less convenience key on the BlackBerry Torch. With BlackBerry Desktop Software 6.0 we use our own media software to transfer pictures and videos. In prior releases there was Roxio Media Manager included. You can still use Mass Storage Mode and browse through My Computer and browse through the Micro SD card as a mapped hard drive. By doing this you can create folders for your pictures or even move them to your PC if you wish. Please let us know if there is any other questions.

They’re a sorry company? Wow let’s support a 4 year old device and make it work horribly so people have something else to complain about. Think about it! I’m surprised you didn’t also retaliate with the “I’m going to switch if you don’t”

Hey ppl how to download it explain send me the instructions to backstreet_43@yahoo.com plz i need it.

Apple owners (fans) are usually blind to all Jobs spewes. Just today (Sunday Nov. 7th) it comes out that the Apple4 can’t even make the simple task of switching to regular time, resulting in needing to adjust manually over 24 hours.

Reading this post on November 8, 2010 makes me chuckle

Actually there’s one feature that on the Blackberry and not on any of the others, in-built security. It was a fundamental design principle, unlike the more open aspects of the iPhone and Android. I’m not saying that this makes the phone better, just correcting a mis-perception. For business, I’d choose Blackberry every-time on this basis alone, for pure fun, I’d go for the Android. Why the Android over the Apple? ‘cos Android is open-source so its more likely to have bells and whistles before either of the other 2. But security will always be an add-on.

Android is a OS not a piece of hardware… Are you stating that RIM should create hardware that runs Android? Why would they put insecure rootable code on one of their devices? That’s like putting a $2 lock on the space shuttle.

On the Bold for my Verizion I can go into options, advanced options, browser and set the browser to Blackberry Browser. How can I do this with the AT&T Torch?

Well said! Welcome to 2008 when the rest of the world is moving towards 2011!!!!!!!!!!!

Well Said!

That is simply not true. iPhone had known of the problems they were having with the intenna issue and did nothing about it. Until it became a bigger issue, then they took care of it. Please don’t tell me about Steve Jobs and his quotes. Tis true, there is nothing like iPhone out there, but the iPhone IV has its issues. “You Stand Corrected”… Check it out at CNET.com

Hey, I have an unlocked Blackberry 9700? any idea as to when are we getting OS 6 released for it??

STORM 2 NEEDS OS6!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Yeah, try opening a page with a   lets see what you get using this browser…

they should have it so the new os is compatible with the 9100 i like the phone but i want to try the blackberry 6 on it

when will this be available in Canada? Why are we always the last?????

Got the exact same problem here: Device goes to Extranet instead of Intranet and when on WiFi, fails completely because it does not understand NTLM proxy authentication. This makes the new browser a disaster!

When is BlackBerry 6 coming to Bold 9700????

i’m waiting too…..

why BB 9700 browser cannot support calender input. for example.i want to do some booking and try to insert date by click calender icon.

you are all such losers

can this 6 OS is workable at 9530 storm?? where to down load?? officially @ what price

Dear Sir,
I have problem when I’m browsing with new version. some of web page showing only half.

when i checked with old version it show the complete page.

can you help me on this

Regards,
Ahmed AlBelooshi

Hello Mabtele,

Reboot your BlackBerry by doing a battery pull.

is there any way that i can change the browser default? this phone is useless because i can’t use the wi-fi feature and i’m always prompted to turn on data services which would cost me lots of money in terms of our services here in the Philippines. this phone will be out of the window until i can use my wifi.

Hi Claudifootzie,

There is no option to manually change the default browser. You may want to contact your provider to verify that an initial data connection is not required. The browser should use your Wi-Fi connection once you are connected to your Wi-Fi network. Is your BlackBerry symbol showing next to your Wi-Fi icon as shown in the screenshots above? This article may help you verify that you are connected to your Wi-Fi network. http://bbry.lv/b4wq6M

Hi Paul,

In the new browser in OS 6 it automatically detects what browser is needed while surfing the internet. Such as the BlackBerry Browser, Wi-Fi Browser or WAP Browser. Your device will detect what it needs based on the website or connection.

The new enhancements has reduced the viewable area no so small I cant read it. Remember the hardware screen is already minimal size. Also I sure hope there os some way to change the default brwser away from Bing, its horrible when compared to goog..

will the blackberry storm 2 be able to update to software 6?

DITTO dude on the microscopic font size on my bookmarked sites like http://www.tvsquad.com….very very very UNHAPPY !!!!!!

browser font option is turned up to 14! BB bold…os 6

and for all smartphones with trackpad navigation controls, users can quickly and smoothly zoom by holding ALT while using the trackpad.
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Bold trackpad/ os 6

the sites used to be just the right reading size with os 5

….now the os 6 fonts are microscopic and you have to do this or do that(zoom zoom zoom) to make them readable and my option is set to 14…..

UNACCEPTABLE !!!!!!!!

i’m can not view/found advanced browser option on Browser OS 6.. HIKSSS please help

I was a devoted Blackberry user, until now. The upgrade to 6.0 on my Blackberry Bold 9650 turned my wonderful tool into junk. The fonts are so small in the web browser that even the young girl at the Verizon store admitted that she had a hard time reading the text. I needed help, she shrugged her shoulders and apologized, telling me that no, you can’t get rid of an upgrade. I might have continued to use it for email and phone, but the upgrade also made it subject to little freeze-ups that make it unusable for anything. Why does RIM want me to buy an iPhone?

What is the problem on the 9650 with the OS 6 disabling the Convenience Key programming?

any hope we get an updated browser for the Bold?

On my old 9630 with OS 4.7, I could choose the font size preference within emails. It appears this option is not available on OS 6.0? Please let me know if I am missing something.

Also, I have to echo the comments regarding the loss of column view…..

Hopefully we have a better version coming.

Forgot to mention that I had to get a new 9650 Bold (Verizon) and it came with OS 6.0 installed.

Here’s another aggravation. For the life of me, I cannot get the calendar options to save my initial view preference of ‘month’. No matter what I do, it keeps reverting back to ‘day’.

This OS doesn’t appear ready for prime time, and we are the testers. I don’t have time for this. Please give an update on when these things will be getting fixed:

* Web browser needs ‘column view’, or some ability to increase font size by default. Don’t make us zoom & pan, etc.

* Give us the ability to choose font size in BB Exchange e-mails.

* Calendar will not allow initial view default to be saved. It allows you to go through the process and select preference, but will NOT save the selected options.

Is there a chance that the BB Storm 2 9550 gets the OS upgrade from 5.0 to 6.0 soon? Please tell me yes.

I have a black berry bold 9780 .. i have not yet subscribed to the data plan from my provider.. . I have a i at home for my browing.

i have already connected to the wi fi .. through the blackberry

as you said ealier “we’ve automated transport selection so users no longer have to set their default browser!) ”

but when i click on the browser it doesnt connect to the requested pages/

do i need a different browser.. where do i select to use the wi fi for internet browsing

pls . help

I would advise verifying with your wireless provider that Wi-Fi browsing without a data plan is supported.

when does it come out for at and t?????

Hello annoyed,

Each mobile carrier decides what software and devices to carry on their network. It is best to contact them for more information on availability.

You can downgrade the software to a lower version. you can go backwards if you don’t like the new OS. Download Desktop Manager to your computer, google 5.0.0.1006 for 9650 Bold and download the OS to your computer, plug in BB and use DM to reinstall(downgrade) your BB. You can search on Crackberry.com for instructions

I have the Bold 9000 It is so slow! I cant reply to anything on facebook the Horrible RIM AP has never been updated I have had 3 Blackberries I have given it all I can. Going to switch to Iphone to see if I have better luck

RIM APPS are HORRIBLE!

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