RIM Responds to Apple's 'Distortion Field'

For those of us who live outside of Apple’s distortion field, we know that 7” tablets will actually be a big portion of the market and we know that Adobe Flash support actually matters to customers who want a real web experience. We also know that while Apple’s attempt to control the ecosystem and maintain a closed platform may be good for Apple, developers want more options and customers want to fully access the overwhelming majority of web sites that use Flash. We think many customers are getting tired of being told what to think by Apple. And by the way, RIM has achieved record shipments for five consecutive quarters and recently shared guidance of 13.8 – 14.4 million BlackBerry smartphones for the current quarter. Apple’s preference to compare its September-ending quarter with RIM’s August-ending quarter doesn’t tell the whole story because it doesn’t take into account that industry demand in September is typically stronger than summer months, nor does it explain why Apple only shipped 8.4 million devices in its prior quarter and whether Apple’s Q4 results were padded by unfulfilled Q3 customer demand and channel orders. As usual, whether the subject is antennas, Flash or shipments, there is more to the story and sooner or later, even people inside the distortion field will begin to resent being told half a story.

– Jim Balsillie, Co-CEO at Research In Motion (RIM)

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  • http://twitter.com/bbindiaforums BBIndia Forums

    Great reply. Blackberry rocks.

  • http://twitter.com/stsns Sea to Sky

    Great response – I was reading Steve Jobs comments earlier and couldn’t believe the hype… proven to be a joke as per usual.

  • Slaihing

    Wow. About time RIM responded. Steve insists on targeting BB even though RIM has the biggest market share.

  • Bmbartels

    I read a transcript of what Steve said and just became disgusted. You killed it! This is why I will be a BlackBerry forever, y’all are good, honest people who make the best products.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_CLR3KAHSRGJUXLZD74TSIBFAHI reece

    Great. Now please demo a working Playbook unit. Don’t just hold it in your hand, but use it. Because right now, it looks like the Playbook is just vaporware.

  • ShortChange

    If customers are tired of ‘being told by Apple’ …sales would reflect that? Come on Balsille, RIM needs to step up their game and you know it.

    Developers ‘may’ want to build on flash for your systems, and that’s because you have a terrible software platform which isn’t capable of making good applications. Your application offerings are slim pickings; a fraction of the quality and quantity of Apple’s.

    You are losing market share by the hour. Your products are severely outdated.

    If you can’t face reality, the board needs to replace you.

    Step up the game, or become a thing of the past.

  • Anonymous

    Forbes should instate a new award category:

    Most Arrogant CEO of the decade.

    No points for guessing who the winner would be…

  • http://twitter.com/rtorcato Richard Torcato

    Apple has the earnings to back it up.

    When will Rim stop doing the BOGO deals and show how many people actually want to buy their phones.

  • dieter

    the response is lame… of course 7inches are far inferior to 9inches! especially when most of that real estate is clobbered up with flash commercials. you apple haters out there! try an ipad and you’d realize that life without flash is a blessing….i can’t wait to get rid of my bb and to receive mail on my ipad instead…

  • Anonymous

    Looks like nobody cares what RIMM says! Only 4 response?

    Mr CEO, Let the ppl speak for your products.

    Also, I am not saying what SJ or Apple says is always correct but Apple is one of the top firms that profits through innovation and that is what matters in the end!

    What RIMM has done in the last few years that is innovative or ground breaking? The smoke and mirror tablet that was showcased some time back is nothing more that another Storm! Let’s see anyway!!!

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  • Gerry Daman

    Steve Jobs may have been a bit harsh, but until RIM actually ups their game to compete with real smartphones, people will continue to look elsewhere.

    Examples of disappointment from RIM in my eyes:
    1. The Torch – the same screen from the disappointing Storm?!
    2. The Playbook – no prices, no working demo, just specs on a sheet. Vaporware.

  • Logout

    Think different.

    I believe the meaning of that slogan changed.

  • James

    RIM just please make a quality tablet that works, you even had the nerve to have a fake one on stage,http://www.singularityhacker.com/2010/09/blackberry-playbook-doesnt-exist.html
    Until then I’m not buying into the RIM “Distortion Field” that you know how to make an ideal tablet that just works.

  • rojo

    BOOM!
    I don’t own a blackberry device but this reply may change my mind.

  • Mason Darren

    Blackberry is so far behind. All they have left is that corporate executive image they have fostered over the years, and those in need of their specific physical keyboard. Who wants to use or develop for a Blackberry browser?

    The OS will never catch up to Apple OR Android, all this is just damage control. Blackberry is old.

  • http://blackberrycool.com/ Matt Cameron

    Good reply Jim. You’ve got a great Corporate Mudslinging Clarification Field going on that compliments your line of no-nonsense products. Kudos_

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    Good reply Jim. You’ve got a great Corporate Mudslinging Clarification Field going on that compliments your line of no-nonsense products. Kudos_

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  • Real Deal

    If we are talking only smartphones here, RIM does not have the biggest market share – and it’s falling. Meanwhile Apple’s market share is climbing. And Apple has a bigger share of profit then RIM. Get your facts straight.

  • Real Deal

    If we are talking only smartphones here, RIM does not have the biggest market share – and it’s falling. Meanwhile Apple’s market share is climbing. And Apple has a bigger share of profit then RIM. Get your facts straight.

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  • http://www.malcolmscorner.com Malcolm Lloyd

    APPLE – You got SERVED!

  • http://www.twitter.com/davidafenton DavidAFenton

    Interesting….though that Playbook needs to ship ASAP. iPad in Verizon stores looks daunting.

  • Anonymous

    Did you have the background on this post? OR is this someone who has had too much RIMM Koolaid?

  • Ghostscript

    Wow! Steve Jobs just got slapped! LOL!

  • davidavid

    Blackberry is a dated, dying platform. I think everyone understands that.

  • Nattyranks

    All well and good Jim…But can you give us loyal Storm fans something we can be proud of????

  • HigherEd

    A 7 inch tablet is too small. In fact, I think a tablet is really something that is the size of the standard US sheet of paper. Those of us who want to be productive or use the device in our work will look for something that can replace all of the paper we don’t want to print or carry. The iPad really does fill this role better. Besides the review process of apps is really a good thing as it helps to protect our individual data on our devices.

    And Flash really is a thing of the past. It’s a pain to work with and a resource hog. H264 is SO much better in my experience. If you look around, there are some people making some really cool things with HTML5 on the web, that Flash was looked for doing in the past.

    One more thought… would you want your kids replacing their books with 7 inch or nearly 10 inch screens? iPad will be it for education.

  • Jackie

    Real devices were demoed at the Devcon in SFO last month.

  • Misterf00

    Actually, Real Deal you are incorrect. My husband works for RIM and all I can say is that they are kicking it in market share. We have the real numbers and the analysts out there don’t always give accurate info.

  • Squeaky192

    I loved my BB Tour but finally went Android.

    I miss how simple the BB was at times, but beyond that Android takes the cake and keeps moving forward.

    Time to step it up, or hope businesses and high school girls continue to be entertained.

  • Squeaky192

    Exactly. There’s a reason Verizon gets a new Android device every 28 days and they fly off the shelves.

  • http://www.devcite.com www.devcite.com

    I believe that the real battle is winning only with facts…. apple try to down RIM with different things but they don’t really make an effort like RIM to make a real competition … it’s true that both have some weakness but the company that really make things is the one that will win this competition

  • Luis416

    Who really cares about what who thinks is best? It’s all a preference. Everyone needs to stop judging one over the other…I’ve had both BB & Iphone and to be honest with you all, BB works better for me cause it’s more practical. I don’t need Apple’s bells and whistles~

  • http://www.facebook.com/brandoncoreywolf Brandon Wolf

    iphones suck anyway. so many apps are buy only and the ones that arnt suck. i miss my old blackberry, but sadly my pearl flip gave up the ghost

  • Cl_ads

    Mason, why don’t you educate yourself and research which company has the largest business market…RIM or Apple? RIM owners aren’t generally the young, insecure types that need to buy the latest phone to be “in” and then to find out the product isn’t worth all the hype, and they are stuck with a poor product..I”m retired from telecommunications, I built the towers and sold the phones, and will take RIM everyday over Apple

  • Doc

    only one major carrier has iPhone. All the major carriers have
    Blackberries why don’t you do the math instead of regurgitating what Apple tells you

  • Grandswiss

    Steve’s DOA verdict is perhaps a little harsh but let me add my personal experience. I used different screen sizes over the past few years: digital photo frames, iRex e-Book reader, Sony P, Sony TX. Photo frames to look at photos: Okay. E-book readers to read paperbacks (or look at photos): Okay. Sony P to look at movies: Okay. But when it comes to web experience, I can not recommend screen sizes smaller than 9 inch! (I browsed on both iRex and Sony P) Of course, it heavily depends what you want to do with 7′ tablets but browsing the web will not be pleasant experience. Size matters…

  • Paul Griffiths

    I sure am pleased that RIM is now concerned about stepping up their game…*cough cough***however, I’m not pleased that they are completely shafting me on the new OS6 for a Blackberry Storm2 that is less than a year old. How can they exclude their touchscreen flagship smartphone? Maybe they should next focus a little more on improving the devices they have, instead of creating a new one every 6 months. Don’t get me wrong, I’m a loyal BB customer, but I’m very disappointed that they left me (and many others) wondering if I made a mistake for the past 3 years. iPad to Verizon on 10/28….Hmmmm….makes me think the iPhone is more and more promising in Verizon’s future. If nothing else, I will seriously be considering switching to a Droid device if they don’t get their game together pretty soon….and I say this with a heavy heart :(

  • Anonymous

    While I think Blackberry Torch made a mistake by launching the Torch on the same network as the iPhone (a very dumb idea if you ask me), the lack of flash is the biggest complaint that I hear from iPad fans.

    Truth be told Steve Jobs rant was more about Android than anything else, as he is looking into a future where Apple is 2nd place (if they are not there already as Google only counts Google verified Android devices, which cuts out all of China).

  • Corp User

    As a corporate user I will love to have the NEW OS 6 on my T-Mobile Bold 9700. I read that the upgrade will be available but is it taking soo long??? I have played around with the Torch the OS is very user friendly.

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  • Bobby

    Your 7″ tablet, should you EVER ACTUALLY build one, will be another amazing piece of junk just like your phones. As far as flash being part of a “real web experience”-you need to actually USE the web sometime and see just how much it’s only part of the “real web advertising experience.” I use a browser with a flash eliminating plugin and am glad to surf flash-free, able to turn flash on when I so desire and leave all the flash ads behind. I agree with Mason Darren, RIM is horribly behind.

  • G.K

    The lack of flash is a little annoying, but the web experience on iPhone is much better, efficient and more engaging than on a blackberry.

  • BerryMaster

    Behind? If you like to have devices with locks then go apple… who cares!!!!

  • Tennisbuddy9

    i am accually in the process of getting an iphone. its the app selection. no body makes apps for blackberry anymore. i mean if i had verizon i would get a droid x but i get too big a discount on att to switch. maybe if blackberry accually had people making apps for the. and also alot of this article is wrong. the concern about sites not being flash is not even a big deal because about 90% of sites have mobile sites now that are the exact same as the normal site. and if they dont have a site they have an app, i think blackberry should really just not get all worked up considering there service is the least notable mainly because of their lack of apps and the fact the lack of good phones available and the ones that are good are way to expensive. the fact that people are still buying is amazing at this point

  • WirelesssMonkey

    Awesome statement. And I’m an Apple MacBook, iPod and iPhone guy. But very eloquently stated.

  • Steven_perna

    Yes…we need a new and improved storm! I will stay with blackberry if you guys can get it right and get it going! Otherwise iphone for verizon here I come!!

  • lew

    RIM is guilty of the same things…the new Blackberry Torch? It would have been a good comeback for RIM, IF it was available for a reliable network, but no, RIM monopolized it to AT&T only, trying to force it’s users through the cattle shute just like Apple. In conclusion, my next phone choice is easy…I’m getting an Android because it’s the only reliable option available on the only reliable network in this country.

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  • Vugar

    http://news.cnet.com/8301-1035_3-20012627-94.html apple does have the biggest market share

  • Philana Adora

    i love my bbtour too but ive been having problems lately with it n i cnt get a new phone yet. i think its a mechanical problem because i haven’t even go it wet or any thing. but if i can get a new phone it probably will be an android like yours

  • Guest

    You are clearly just a fan boy.

  • Prorookie

    So when is Flash going to be available on your phones. I love my BB Storm but c’mon!

  • http://twitter.com/wallner67 Phillip Wallner

    Errm, the same screen as the Storm? I’m pretty sure the Storm had that terrible “SurePress” screen, while the Torch has a capacitive multitouch screen. And just to clue you in, that’s how all devices start – as specs on a sheet. But you probably think Steve Jobs said “let there be iphone” and it magically appeared in his hand. Just because Apple doesn’t release any of their concepts before actually designing them doesn’t make them better (or worse). To the guy who made the point about new Android devices – could that possibly be because there are currently 25 companies who manufacture Android phones? RIM is in trouble, but don’t invent problems that aren’t there.

  • Kristen

    I am a public relations executive and I have to say that portions of this statement seem hastily put together. The rest of it reads well, particularly the sentence about “customers getting tired of being told what to think,” and the last sentence. These things are what Apple has needed to hear for quite some time. I am a loyal BlackBerry user and will continue to be one. I feel the phone’s user interface and business capabilities are superior to the iPhone, not to mention its corporate, down-to-earth image as compared to the immature “tween” image that iPhone projects.

  • http://twitter.com/wallner67 Phillip Wallner

    Steve Jobs?

  • Carpet_surgeon

    Wow Blackberry is behind? and what planet are you living on, I threw away the Iphone, top reasons not to use an Iphone
    Junk not a very dependable unit, was in for service 3 times in first 6 months
    Wont support work related websites.
    Pay by the mega byte usage, cost a fortune for anyone that uses the phone to even half its potentional compliments of Apples agreement with ATT,
    And coverage area, what a joke, the phone loses calls through out the state of Michigan, Indiana, Ohio, Ky Tn and Georgia.
    Overall not a cost effective piece of equipment.

  • Iphonesucks

    just get an droid, screw apple,

  • http://ARMdevices.net/ Charbax

    Will RIM start using Android soon? Why not? It would make RIM sell double as many devices. Comon, you know we know that porting your “secure” messaging system to your own custom version of Android has to be one of your top priorities at the moment. Nokia/Palm must be thinking this too.

  • gone

    Just left a 5 year Blackberry relationship for an Android phone. Improve your OS and you wouldn’t have to worry about the competitions antics because you’d have a superior product.

  • Mason Darren

    Then you are the perfect RIM customer…an antique. And sounding quite insecure at that.

  • Neh4pres

    hey.. how about that new samsung with the amoled screen… thats a real smartphone.. its easy to find amazing games on it.. it has hdmi out so i can plug it into my cars screen or my tv.. it has swipe texting. and widgets.. widgets are amazing… and the other apps awesome.. it runs google earth as fast as my computer… i have yet to see something as capable from rim.. the only reason i have a storm 2 right now is becouse im held to it by a contract. android came out a week after i got this thing.. and even though i like the click screen, i feel im on a sinking ship. there is no processing power or apps or cool features for these phones.. my eyes are looking toward the future and blackberry is standing in the present.. sorry blackberry =(

  • Techie JP

    True words of a follower, you people are whats wrong with society in general, never strong enough to think for yourself and but always willing to follow blindly. I will always praise apple for their computers and most of their software, but never for their other products. I despise being locked in or not having full access to the things i buy, and while all manufacturers do it no one does it as severely as apple. Blackberry might be old but it has more experience and is the original smart-phone, if RIM is falling behind its because its giving people what they want and not what they see fit.

  • http://twitter.com/levifig Levi Figueira

    It’s going to be interesting to see RIM eating their own words in a couple of years…

  • Ohnoyoudidnt

    I hate anything Mac and I own absolutely NOTHING Mac related, nor ever will. I hate it that people who get into Mac become Mac worshippers as if paying elevated prices for crap that’s incompatible with lots of stuff were cool, not to mention that there are plenty of other brands that do exactly the same at a lower cost. I hate it and I’m not buying that cookie. I like BB because it delivers quality and style at a fair price.

  • Hoho

    How about you realize that this post IS NOT ABOUT SMARTPHONES… its about tablets!!!

  • http://twitter.com/stevendrowe Steven Rowe

    I’m not really into the company vs company politics and certainly don’t want to take sides. All I’m interested in is whether a product is going to meet my needs, the price is in my budget, the product and company are sturdy enough to last the time I am going to use it.

  • http://twitter.com/FoxRoxYourSox Greg Fox

    Actually Doc, iPhone is carried by AT&T, T-Mobile (Germany, UK, Netherlands), SoftBank, Orange, O2, Vodaphone, TELUS Mobility, Rogers and Bell Mobility.

  • Hayzus

    What are you talking about man? Same as Storm? Have you actually seen the phone? It’s not a big button anymore. And it’s a helluva lot faster than the iPhone.

  • http://twitter.com/HoracioRivera Horacio Rivera

    I now own a BB i8350 and sucks BIG TIME, nextel has made already 5 REPLACEMENTS and the freaking thing has one problem or other, it seem like finally they will finally cancel my contract and start a new one without smartphone involved.

    I prefer beeing stuck with wife’s 2G iPhone than to read a Facebook coment on my i8350, crap cominig out of a bull, thats what my BB is.

  • SheaSF

    Android has the biggest market share, Real. I-phone only held the distinction for a year or two. BlackBerry dominated the market until then. AT&T sucks in a lot of places. Android, and BB have not been eclipsed by a long shot.

  • Christian

    What is most important here is to recognize this core distinction that is being made: a BlackBerry is not, never will be, and shouldn’t be “an iPhone,” i.e. this race and the yearning for one winner is not realistic. Similarly, RIM and Apple are two very different companies with vastly different backbones.
    As I am writing this comment on an iPhone 4, never having had a BlackBerry device, the guy across from me loses credibility for me when he pulls anything out but a BB. Apples and Oranges,… errh BlackBerries.

  • Anonymous

    OH wow, OK that makes a lot of sense dude.

  • Lakebro

    I have had many Blackberrys but i would throw mine in the lake in a heartbeat if the Iphone ever comes to verizon…You just can’t beat the simplicity of Apple’s products..oh and when Apple advertises a product they actually come out with it soon, not like Blackberry..

  • Mike

    Giggle!

    I had the opportunity to play with a 7″ tablet at the recent FITC Mobile conference in Toronto. You know what I found? That in portrait mode, the tablet wasn’t wide enough to view the page in a legible format without zooming (and lots of scrolling). And in landscape mode, the width was fine but the tablet wasn’t tall enough to view a decent portion of the page without lots of scrolling.

    The other thing? A 7″ tablet is too big for your pocket, unless you’re wearing a suit. But put it in a folio or case and it just seems small.

    No, if you’re going to build a tablet you build one that approximates the size of a standard sheet of paper. Apple got it right Jim. The only reason RIM and others are building 7″ tablets is because the screen size differentiates you from Apple enough that you won’t compete head-to-head with the iPad. Enough people will probably buy the 7″ tablets at first, thinking that it’s a better option. But they’ll quickly learn otherwise.

  • John

    Jim,
    You can go all day firing back at Jobs and his cronies. And yes, Apple and Jobs may be pushing sales hype, but every one of their products feels inspired. Not just cool, but truly inspired. This will continue to be their edge over RIM until RIM gets it and changes design direction. RIM products are engineered to the edge of tech. If tech is all you want, they are fantastic. But they look like and feel like they were designed by engineers with little more inspiration than a 1980′s era Samsonite briefcase. Apple products look and feel like they are designed by artists. When I hold a BB product such as my 8520 and my Pearl before that, they feel like electronic equipment. When I hold an apple product it feels like living sculpture. C’Mon Jim, get your design team looking in a different direction. BB products still feel like they are “inside the box”. Breath some inspired life into the line and you’ll increase your competitive power over Apple and win new fans. Strive to create products that not only look inspired, but in turn, inspire the user. It should leave them feeling satisfied, not like they want more from it. A GUI should be an extension of the user, not just a desktop on a phone/tablet. Strive for fluidity. Please?

  • http://twitter.com/everydaypanos everydaypanos

    Plz try and answer Steve Jobs on the points. Rasberry has a daunting challenge: To make a proper OS that is solid for devs to create apps on. Think Visual Studio, or XCode. Apple and Microsoft have all these tools to develop apps on phones or PCs. RIM HAS to provide tools and bring the RIM OS up to speed or else it will just die in 5 years. Sad.

  • ProCompSolutions

    When is 6.0 going to be available for our Storm 2s?

  • Ben

    Why don’t you try dropping your iToy and I’ll drop my Blackberry, let’s see which survives. Oh and please remove that cute little bumper you had to buy to make the phone work properly.

  • me

    break away from the matrix sir…

  • http://www.jeffgibbard.com/ JGibbard

    Served with record sales, record stock price and a platform that everyone is rushing to copy, yeah, I’m sure they’re really taking this to heart.

  • Philmenchaca

    owning both and an apple currently all i have to say is, i miss my bb.. apple is great and the hype realed me in, but it is jus that, hype.. bb was way more practical and if you actually use it for work instead of when you’re just bored, you’d choose bb too..

  • http://www.jeffgibbard.com/ JGibbard

    Your generalizations are fairly offensive. The fact that you are claiming that the iPhone is simply for young insecure people who need the latest phone is about as accurate as saying Blackberrys are only for old people that need a physical keyboard because they can’t comprehend a touch screen.

    The iPhone changed the entire paradigm of telecomm by disrupting the power that carries had in favor of the phone manufacturer. Before the iPhone “App Store” was gibberish.

    If you are so impressed about RIM’s business numbers in this debate, you are missing the point. Apple is shipping a ton of phones and has momentum. They are the 2nd most valuable company in the world. Their stock price is more than $250/per share higher.

    Thanks for building the towers.

  • THE_ONE

    I’ve owned both an iPhone and numerous Rim devices. Blackberry’s are much more functional and you most certainly don’t have to use iTunes every time you want to change something. My Torch is an awesome phone. By far the best phone I’ve owned ever. Plus I can cover my phone with insurance and don’t have to call any special numbers, or visit any apple store to get it repaired. The Playbook will by far be a much better option then a bloat ware iPad.

  • Send_it40

    Well i like both the Iphone and the blackberry,i have the older iphone and the new torch,I believe it’s in the eye of the consumer not the ceo’s to comment on product satisfaction,though i will say Blackberry rocks.

  • Elemento

    They used to say Microsoft was the evil corporation…
    And by the way, were does that i- comes from anyway? iDiots?

  • Elemento

    They used to say Microsoft was the evil corporation…
    And by the way, were does that i- comes from anyway? iDiots?

  • Jb

    A camel is a race horse built by R.I.M.

  • Jb

    A camel is a race horse built by R.I.M.

  • DM

    Um, H264 is a video codec. Flash is something entirely different.

    Demonstrating such a lack of fundamental understading of technology pretty much discredits you from making any further statements or being taken seriously in any manner.

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  • Anonymous

    In your face

  • Anonymous

    It’d be just awesome if RIM did their own version of Android and we didn’t have to worry about porting to BB. I bet all the good stuff BB/RIM has can be ported to Android (instead of grabbing a whole other operating system)

  • Elemento

    RIM owners aren’t generally the young, insecure types that need to buy the latest phone to be “in”…
    Did you guys ever wonder why RIM´s products launching never have the same hype Apple´s stuff do? Why we never see people waiting in line the whole night just to be the first one to buy the new iWhatever???
    Easy one! It´s because BB users have to work, we have a life, we have families and “normal people´s” stuff like that! Hahaha!

  • Anonymous

    I’d like to see you doing webcam stuff with HTML5. HTML5 is still in diapers and it still lacks a lot. Flash is everywhere and it keeps getting better with each release. You are in denial if you think Flash is going away, flash is an integral part of the web experience and when you load those sites on your iPad that show you the little plugin icon, you have no choice but to bite your tongue and be pissed because Apple wants to tell you what you can or cannot do with your overpriced useless hardware that has no connectivity, camera, or storage extensibility.

  • Nate

    So, on a tablet with Flash, how am I going to activate a “right-click” mouse option, like you have in many Flash applications? How about the “mouse over” function. Perhaps you are all smarter than Apple and can figure out how to do that. …Or perhaps Steve is right.

  • iPhone User

    I didn’t even know that RIMM has a Co-CEO and that his name is Jim Balsillie.

  • Edgard

    There are much more that just the web experience. I can work with mi BB but I consider the Iphone just for play music and videos, is really good for that.

  • Cananito

    I don’t want Flash on websites. Adobe should start working more on their other products and move on imstead of crying because Flash is going away.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_4XGLPKGYFPZEI5AKCEIHXI2HEQ fjlehnerz

    Apple gains market share because most people are weak minded and cannot think for themselves. You cannot even run an iProduct out of the box without having to connect to iTunes, and if you step outside that rose lined barbed wire fence that marks Applewitz, you’re screwed.
    Whether BB is “behind” or not, just look at how many different devices they offer, in different form factors. Most people bash BB for losing market share in the US when it is gaining market share in the developing world due to it’s lower cost, availability on many carriers (instead of just one like Crapple here in the US).

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_4XGLPKGYFPZEI5AKCEIHXI2HEQ fjlehnerz

    Apple gains market share because most people are weak minded and cannot think for themselves. You cannot even run an iProduct out of the box without having to connect to iTunes, and if you step outside that rose lined barbed wire fence that marks Applewitz, you’re screwed.
    Whether BB is “behind” or not, just look at how many different devices they offer, in different form factors. Most people bash BB for losing market share in the US when it is gaining market share in the developing world due to it’s lower cost, availability on many carriers (instead of just one like Crapple here in the US).

  • http://twitter.com/gryzzly gryzzly

    “to fully access the overwhelming majority of web sites that use Flash” – this ain’t true, unless you provide numbers and stats. And there are no such stats that would prove this nonsense.

    Flash isn’t accessible, is inefficient power-wise and isn’t good for mobile devices. But it doesn’t matter. Just one sentence like that is enough for to decide not to keep reading this “response”.

  • Steve G

    Hi I have a great story that should be told about how wonderful my service has been at getting a order from Steve Jobs and his reps here in Canada..Below is explaining my problem and the letter I have sent to about 20 people at apple in the past week..

    I have spent around 20 hrs the past week and a half talking to Apple reps Apple managers and anyone else who perhaps could help me figure out where someone went wrong with my order of a Iphone 4 32g and I have gotten nowhere .I even sent a fax directly to Steve Jobs office.I had placed a order for a I phone 4 in Aug 20th, and never was sent a confirmation of the placed order to my Email ..Then about 2 weeks later I called back in to see why I was never sent any conf # or order # for the Canadian postal money order I had sent for the I phone, and I was assured by Malery it was received and my phone was on its way, Once again I asked for a order # and never got anything in my e mail ..And now over a month later I have spent the last 5 days talking with Apple rep after Apple rep and managers from 3 different apple numbers Ive been given and still no closer to getting my phone I had ordered over a month and a half ago …No one I have spoken with can find anything except my address and phone number …I had even sent in my copy of the money order due to no one having any info on my order, even though I was assured it was on its way over a month ago…Now I have no E mail order # or copy of the money order and no phone and I’m out almost $900 …I am so sick of this, I have been wasting so much time while at work trying to just simply get my damn phone I paid for and everyone I’ve talked to just keeps wasting my time …
    I JUST WANT MY PHONE I PAID FOR ……………….
    Steve G

  • http://twitter.com/jr_plusplus Julian Russell

    Evidently RIM owners are the older, insecure types who don’t want to use their phone for anything except for e-mail.

  • http://www.macworld.com.au/blogs/google-rim-attempt-to-outspin-jobs-18365/ Google, RIM attempt to outspin Jobs – Australian Macworld

    [...] co-CEO Jim Balsillie wasted little time in posting a rebuttal on the company’s blog, taking issue with everything from Jobs’ dismissal of the 7in tablet form factor to his recasting [...]

  • http://clintonduncan.tumblr.com Clinton Duncan

    The fact RIM/BB have to write blog posts responding to Apple, just goes to show who’s controlling the conversation.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Dave-Thomson/663213839 Dave Thomson

    Oh really ? I must have missed the demo of the playbook then…

  • http://twitter.com/AndyJ Andy Jarrett

    Don’t forget those people you mock inside the “distortion field” are meant to be your new customers you want to win over!

    Personally I’ve tried all three main OS’s (Nokia’s one I am not including) and RIM you come last in usability but then again you aim at a corporate market who will pay over the odds for old technology rather than “bleeding edge”

    But don’t think Flash is what consumers want! Most people I know who have Android based phones are techy people .. the ones who aren’t don’t like it. I’ve not heard of many non-tech people hating iOS and they are the majority of the buying public.

  • http://rpheath.com Ryan Heath

    I bet you still use 3.5″ floppy disks, too. HTML5 video (or native video in the browser) is a far better technology than Flash, Apple made the choice to move forward under that assumption/opinion, and iOS users are better off because of it.

    Thankfully, Apple makes the hard choices to move the industry forward. Those choices aren’t supported by everyone or they wouldn’t be hard. We’re all so fortunate to have a company with the impact Apple has making those decisions. That’s how technology moves forward, and nobody on the planet can claim that Apple doesn’t push technology forward.

    So get on board or buy a Blackberry.

  • one ball jay

    Mason, you’re an idiot.

  • Edgard

    Yuo are right man, I am a BB user BB8100, BB8320, BB8900, BB8520, and now a BB9550. I was hoping that the next generation “Storm” will have a 1gzh processor and a Super Oled or Amodel Screen. I like BBs and how they help to stay organized and I love the multitask, ah yes the mail too. But now I thinking to triad an Adroid phone. Ah! the Playbook will be my first table, but I need to know, microsd slot?, capacity? price? (Please excuse my English is it is bad written, Edgard from Perú)

  • Chriskhall

    CI_ads, while, you make an excellent statement, I don’t think that your statement really counters what Mason said…what is it about Blackberry that is inherently better than IPhone and why do so many business users have them? I bought my own 9630 by the way…but I have so little ammunition when my friends pull out their Iphones and they are just so impressive…

  • Old Timer In Two Way

    With market share now mostly smartphones BB needs to be the first to build a Mil Spec phone that can take the abuse that end users are giving them.

  • Phil

    The hyperbole coming from RIM’s Jim reminds me of the lack of vision of companies like Compuserve and Gateway, who kept looking backwards and failed miserably. RIM needs to innovate, not argue about 7″ tablets for cryin’ out loud. The fact of the matter is that the 7″ form factor is too small for real hands, especially mens’ hands. Face it; Deal with it; Innovate. And Flash is yesterday, face it, move on, stop arguing. Stop being disingenuous about antennas, just stop, stop, stop. Move on. Innovate. Innovate. Innovate. And lastly, ultimately, it’s not about unit shipments, it’s about profit and mind share. Innovate. The profits will come.

  • Marcopolo

    Yeah bigger is not always better!

  • Luther

    He didn’t specify whether his statement was directed at only smartphones. Therefore his facts are still correct. Get your LOGIC straight.

  • Chris M

    The Torch doesn’t use the same screen as the Storm. Besides, if you’ve ever used a Storm 2 instead of just reading crap on the internet, you would know that its actually very good and easy to use.

    The Playbook isn’t vaporware just because people didn’t get to use it at the announcement. If that were the way it is, then the Torch would be vaporware too …

  • http://blog.neuronaltraining.net/?p=18717 RIM le responde a Jobs y defiende los Tablets de 7 pulgadas | [ Neuronal Training ]:

    [...] Luego continuó explicando que el trimestre fiscal de RIM termina en septiembre, a diferencia de Apple que es en Agosto. “Y por cierto, RIM ha logrado envíos récord en los últimos cinco trimestres consecutivos […]” [...]

  • Chris M
  • http://david.ulevitch.com/ Anonymous

    Nice post Jim! Hope to see you again soon, maybe even in Berlin again! :-)

  • Lars Jeppesen

    Your comments are tight on… I have been a Blackberry user for the longest time, and I don’t see any reason for upgrading my 2 year old BB Bold to any new device from RIM – that’s of course a statement in it self, however wish something had happened in 2 years that would motivate me to upgrade, I don’t see much real evolution from RIM..

  • JackBnimble

    If the CRapple lemmings are so secure about Herr Jobs’ products, why do they spend so much time on other products’ blogs slamming them.
    Stevie boy knows that the market is just about ready to fall out for his toys. I mean, fools will only re-buy the same repackaged junk so many times.

  • Navdeep Singh

    You guys are far from the rock solid base of iOS’s unix underpinnings and polish in graphics libraries, which just show when you touch an iphone

  • Juliano Moreira

    I’m a blackberry user and former iPhone user. I lost my iphone in an accident last year which would cost me $700 to buy an iphone outright. I’m not a Apple advocate but I’m a UX (User Experience) advocate. Unfortunately, Blackberry does NOT provide a good user experience. The device is really overwelmingly complicated to use. One example is transferring files via bluetooh. Did RIM ever take in consideration usability when they came up with a way to sync files? It doesn’t look like RIM did. You need to tell the device to accept an incoming file whereas some simplest phones out there does it all for you. I should have to tell my blackberry I’m going to receive a file. It should just receive the file. This is one area that RIM really needs to improve. Despite Steve Jobs cocky comments users want devices easy to use, devices that make our lives simpler and not harder. I’ll tell you right now I’m not Blackberry happy user and I don’t think I’m buying a Blackberry ever again due to the fact I did not have a good experience. It’s not about Apple, it’s about a product that really understand and interact effectively with the user and unfortunately Apple does it really well. One day, it may not be Apple anymore, it could be an Orange doing the right thing for the user.

  • Catz1215

    I think that 5 x 7 is absolutly a ridiculous size. I think these pads need to be at least 8 x 10. You can hardly see anything on a screen that small. I refuse to buy any pad until they get larger.

  • HardcoreMommy

    What do you mean only one carrier has iPhone? Even Walmart has iPhone … for 3 different carriers alone… are you serious?

  • Mario

    And so it is! Besides RIM makes huge business esp. here in Indonesia their biggest and fastest growing market right now (end of this year Indonesia has 150 million mobile phone users out of a population of 250 million). Here it’s all BB and Apple is nowhere in the numbers like RIM. Your not in business here without your BB and PIN…

  • Catz1215

    I agree with CI_ads. BB are not made to target the teen crowd but the business crowd and besides that, at least BB phones have longer battery times than those Android phones and I have both a BB and an Android. I prefer my BB for this bery reason and I can get apps on my BB just like on my Android without draining my battery in one hour.

  • http://stormota.com/blog/rim-hits-back-jim-basille-reacts-to-steve-jobs-comments StormOTA Blog » Blog Archive » RIM Hits Back: Jim Basille Reacts to Steve Jobs’ Comments

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  • Larry Larmor

    Well said!

    Not only does Apple block Flash, they also block their users from downloading images, mp3 files, videos and apps from the internet by butchering the Safari browser.

    Choice and flexibility is a hallmark of blackberry and that will stand RIM in good stead going forward, long after Apple’s distortion field has faded.

  • Ruchbuilders

    I’ve had all three OS. BB, Iphone, and Android. I’m back to BB. It is simply the best business phone I’ve found. It’s not a toy, its a work phone. If you want a toy get an Iphone or Android, they are both better for playing games.

  • http://bitscloud.com/2010/10/pelea-google-rim-tweetdeck-responden-steve-jobs/ La pelea se enciende: Google, RIM, TweetDeck responden a Steve Jobs

    [...] respuesta de Jim Balsillie, co-CEO de RIM llegó a través de su blog. “Para los que viven fuera del campo de distorsión de Apple, sabemos que las tablets de 7 [...]

  • Anonymous

    Of course the Earth is flat. If it wasn’t, we’d have people falling off all the time.

  • JET

    Jobs going out of his way to attack RIM is actually a good compliment for RIM because that means he is scared. You don’t strike first at an opponent that is perceived as harmless!

  • http://teebolt.com/?p=50 CEO Wars: RIM’s Jim Balsillie Responds to Steve Jobs Rant

    [...] RIM Responds To Apples Distortion Field [...]

  • Shareholder

    When the company’s stock is down in an up year, and when your competitor’s stock is soaring, all is left is blog flaming.

  • bberryenthusiast

    Although I recently purchase and iPhone 4, I am a business owner and only bought the iPhone for a time-wasting personal phone with a dedicated line to use outside of business hours, and the iphone won because I didn’t want two blackberrys. Blackberry continues to be a must for me and running my business effeciently as the hole set up of a blackberry really works wonders for a business minded individual. My business phone is a Blackberry Tour, and despite it being roughed up from use on-site, I still love it.

  • Rsaxby

    Wow not only does this further solidify Jobs as a narsasitic control freak, but once again reminds us all that he is truly a pathetic individualand an even an even worse business man for attacking respectable companies (RIM and Google) for really no good reason except to try and better his own. Keep smiling little apple puppet, maybe Jobs will own you too one day.

  • BBJD

    Jobs/Apple understand marketing. Too bad they keep missing quality. Jobs once again made an idiot of himself. Shouldn’t surprise us… statements from the man who blamed the user for his inferior phone.

  • Jenyc2020

    Sounds like Apple and Obama have alot in common…

  • Jenyc2020

    Can’t beat blackberry’s real push e-mail.. I’ll take the old monocrome track wheel BB over iphone any day. And yes I had the Iphone for 1 year and was happy to get a simple do it all bb.

  • Xj2608

    Great. But can you make my BB Curve work in my house?

  • http://kirillzubovsky.com Kirill Zubovsky

    Until black berry OS looks as hideous as it is, I am sticking with Jobs. At least Jobs cares to make sure his devices are user-friendly to the core. BB needs to ship with a 20 page manual and an apology not for being so cranky.

  • http://profiles.yahoo.com/u/2TNMLZXKWXQ5CS7LF4QV5Z4HTY Daryl Mather

    Been a long time since anybody used the term crackberry isn’t it…

    The trends are obvious, the buzz is incredible, (possibly more than we will see again in our lifetimes over a commercial product) and the outcome is guaranteed.

    The time for action has passed.

    It is hard to lose a customer. You had me for years after the iPhone first came out. But once a customer is lost, they are virtually impossible to regain again…

  • http://twitter.com/kpoindexter Kevin Poindexter Jr

    You obviously don’t know RIMM’s market outside of the USA. Go to any other country and even the Youth of today have blackberry’s. Stop being so narrow minded and look beyond the scope of Apple and what they protray.

  • AD

    Gadget nerds that post “BlackBerry is dying” on blogs have been around for awhile. But go to any large city, walk through any large high school, any airport, any movie theatre, any sports arena around the world. And you’ll see BlackBerry. Record shipments in the past 5 quarters don’t lie. BlackBerry is booming.

  • Titan

    In business, it’s always the company with the smaller market share that needs to attack. In this case, it’s Steve Jobs.

  • Jonas

    Right – a poor product with a larger screen, multi-touch, way better performance, 200k+ apps to choose from, a full-fledged modern browser and the best OS of the crop.

    Using Excel and Powerpoint all day long has really twisted your perception.

  • Heyray

    I’ve been a Blackberry user for 7+ years. I’ve tried the Droid’s but their email push cannot compete with the RIM’s – and I’m still old enough that I live by email.

    But I’m not likely to be a lifelong BB fan. In fact, the minute a decent carrier like Verizon sells the iPhone, I’m going to try it. BB’s are clunky. They work. But it’s an “ugly good.”

    All my other Apple devices work intuitively and seamlessly with each other. I don’t want to have to figure out technology and I don’t want to be fatigued by the features.

    I want a company that has studied me so well, that they already know what I think. Apple does that. RIM used to do that. Now, they just try to play catch-up and compete. What they should have done is innovate while they led the market. But that chance is gone.

    Bottom line, when I buy Apple products, I am reminded of RIM in the early days when they too gave the market a product so good it felt like they were telling us what to think — cause they had studied how we thought so well before they delivered it.

    So, here’s notice RIM … I’m leaving soon … and I think I’m going to be leaving with a large crowd … because when Verizon offers the iPhone, I’m trying it.

  • T1

    My son has had 2 iphones in the last year…yes 2. He has now switched to a BB like myself (2yrs running – no problems). The product is solid just like the company. The HYPE over iphone apps and android is just that HYPE. Really, how many dumb apps to you need on your phone…my BB Bold has apps for everything and its friggen solid unlikely the dainty iphones – that onscreen keybd is a joke nut hey if you like that sort of thing BB has the touch phone too. Kudos to Jim for telling it like it is. :)

  • T1

    Yep gotta get me that Fart app for my phone…yessirreee. pshh!

    What are you reading…Apple weekly? Some Apple pushing dork running down the latest BB release? You should pay a little more attention to where the articles come from….OR…heres an idea actually test drive the new BB’s! At least you’d be providing a fresh perspective instead of recycled drivel from years past – cause I’ve heard these exact comments before….funny its usually around the time a new BB product is scheduled for release…or is making news.
    Lovin’ my BBB!

  • Stephen Vickers

    hear hear

  • Guste

    Do u really know the background of Apple information ? or u just believe what uncle Steve Tells u ? u know why Apple get more selling because they start to ship to Middle east there broken phone without FACETIME funcetion and this is the reason why they stop the free bumber .. I always looking for Blackberry new devices not like Apple yah I have iPhone 4 with bumber .. Blackberry not ..

  • angie

    apple is insecure in blackberry that’s why they are blabbing..
    i’ll deffinitely chose blackberry over and over again…

  • Bob Dole

    Nobody cares about flash…

  • Guest

    As Clint Eastwood puts it, “You’re a legend in your own mind”

    “May you live in interesting times”.
    Old Chinese curse

  • http://rhymes-nursery.editorial.co.in/ Prerna

    I completely agree with you..we should all come out of Apple’s distortion field…

  • http://twitter.com/bbindiaforums BBIndia Forums

    Yes Sir, I read what Steve said and was really not happy with him.

  • Fwerner34

    Your statement is borderline absurd. RIMM shipped 11.2 million BlackBerry smartphones during the May quarter. It also added 4.9 million subscribers during the same period, increasing the total subscriber base to 46 million. And the company estimates that it added some 5 million
    more subscribers in the August interim.

    So how can you say that “everyone understands” that Blackberry is a “dated, dying platform”? What everyone understands, however, is that you have no idea what you are talking about.

  • Me

    The Torch has a COMPLETELY different screen than the Storm. The Torch has a capacitive screen with all the fingertip zooming, etc. that you expect. The Storm was a failed short sighted response to the iPhone – the Storm (and II) was simply a bad idea. The Torch may be the best cell phone available ATM.

  • http://twitter.com/CorinCole Corin Cole

    I love RIM, I’ve been a blackberry fan for years and they’re the only phones I want to use (currently have two Bold 9700s and one Bold 9000). But…

    a.) Jobs pointlessly decided to bash a few rivals in his speech on Monday, which I thought made him look pretty petty (roughly speaking I agree with the author of http://www.betanews.com/joewilcox/article/What-is-Steve-Jobs-so-afraid-of/1287515970 though I wouldn’t make the conclusion that his comments mean he is ‘afraid’). Why did Balsillie have to jump in the same boat, rather than taking the high road and letting Apple have this argument all to themselves?

    b.) “We think many customers are getting tired of being told what to think by Apple. And by the way, [here's what you should actually think].” Really? Was that written by a 12 year old?

    c.) “We know that 7inch tablets will actually be a big portion of the market.” Just saying the opposite of what someone else said isn’t an argument…

    d.) As much as I love everything about their phones… developing for them sucks. Hell, I don’t think I’ve ever heard an opinion of a developer who prefered creating BB apps over iPhone apps. So why are they claiming to be the champion of developers?

    As much as I love this company and their products, reading this blog made me cringe, and not in a good way.

  • Michael Howie

    No need to be rude to Steve.

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    [...] per le rime. Gli esperti della “distorsione della verità” devono digerire una piccata replica ufficiale del co-CEO di RIM Jim Balsillie (illustrato accanto). Dopo i numeri e le considerazione di [...]

  • i phone sucks

    BB rules i cant stand i phone or in that aspect anything apple puts out i cant stand their os it sucks.

  • William Wallace

    what ever they said about my BB , I’m William Wallace, don’t give a DAMN ………!!!

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_JXM35LSGAAQRCVQMQOCNUSJFZE Gairee

    i love blackberry, ive had one since conception

  • Okgr8

    Adobe has really abandoned apple and os x. I have been using their products for many years and flash/dreamweaver just get buggier and the UI gets more frustrating. It does not help that flash itself powers large parts of adobe applications. I hope they shape up or go bankrupt.

  • http://twitter.com/kevinforgoogle Kevin

    You tell them RIM!

  • Guest

    If Jim Balsillie “loved” Blackberry so much, then have his salary reduced to $1 a year.
    Not so smart are we Jim…

    PS, what invention did he ever make… none

  • Ugeneanthoneeamboy

    hi guys good day to all of you!
    i need help i don’t know ur the right person or department to ask. i want to update my storm 9530 version 4 to version 5 as well as its operating system.
    and is there a way to restore its factory settings of my storm 9530?

  • http://www.blackfridayplanet.com/ William Hushburn

    Rock On Mr. Balsillie! I’m a BlackBerry user and ever since I’m not tempted to buy iPhone. I’m overly satisfied with my device and I would continue to look forward for RIM products.

  • http://gizmotiff.wordpress.com/2010/10/20/epic-steve-jobs-rant-rim-android-google-sandpaper-fragmented-integrated-open-close-tweetdeck-andy-rubin/ Epic Steve Jobs’ rant! | gizmoTiff

    [...] just a tweener – too big to compete with a smart phone and too small to compete with the iPad. RIM Co-CEO Jim Balsillie responded to Jobs saying that 7 inch tablets will be a big portion of the market (a market they haven’t [...]

  • Iscogd

    You all or mostly come from North America market, but down in the other side of the world, Israel, the iPhone grab the market which lead that Apple products became more popular. RIM sales drop down drastically, and RIM are not trying to improve situation, the latest phone available in the market is 9700 without any BB accessorizes available at all, thus from Jobs point-of-view he is right, and he is much more successful in North America and worldwide. When you lose phone market share, it will be impossible to sell tablets which will be white elephant, useless.

  • IngmarS

    I wonder who really is in the reality distortion field? Jim B?

  • Joji_vk

    Cl_ads, I love my Blackberry. But this is the age of Facebook and Twitter with 500million+ in a few years.(Did I say Yahoo is dead!! Or Google move aside). The customers with lot of cash to throw away and time to spend are the kiddos. Not the executives that work for companies that keep cutting costs (I have my same Blackberry for last 3 years). That is where Apple has hit Jackpot. That is why they could ship 14 million in a few years and it will keep rising where as Blackberry is almost at the same level for sometime. I remember reading Jim Balsillie saying that IPhone is just another new player in the crowded market. But now they are reached the same no of shipments as Blackberry. And RIM is slow to innovate.
    “Serve the masses and you will be with the classes”

  • Sabran_r321

    unfortunately till right now BlackBerry is still market leader over apple…… bravo BlackBerry ….

  • Anonymous

    “we know that 7” tablets will actually be a big portion of the market” HAHAHAHAHAHA Good luck with that. iPad 2 will be out by the time you start shipping. Who is going to buy that a BB pad over or in addition to an iPad?

    You are listing how many devices have been sold, but who cares – profit is what matters. This is a desperation post. Good luck.

  • http://www.webconsul.de/index.php/lesetipps/2010/10/blackberry-gegen-apples-marktverzerrung-im-bereich-der-tabletspads/ Blackberry gegen Apples Marktverzerrung im Bereich der Tablets/Pads | webconsul

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  • http://www.slashgear.com/rim-ceo-blasts-apple-people-inside-the-distortion-field-will-begin-to-resent-being-told-half-a-story-20108849/ RIM CEO blasts Apple: ” people inside the distortion field will begin to resent being told half a story” – SlashGear

    [...] Apple CEO dismissed 7-inch slates as unusable without first sandpapering your fingers down.  In an open statement on RIM’s site, Balsillie says that “7-inch tablets will actually be a big portion of [...]

  • http://www.stereopoly.de/rim-blackberry-holt-zum-gegenschlag-aus-und-kontert-auf-steve-jobs-kritik/ RIM Blackberry holt zum Gegenschlag aus und kontert auf Steve Jobs Kritik

    [...] Nachdem der Apple Chef es sich im Zuge des besten der Geschäftergebnis nicht nehmen ließ über seine Konkurrenten Google und RIM herzuziehen, hat nun der RIM-Co-CEO Jim Balsillie auf das Steve Jobs-Statement geantwortet. [...]

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  • http://twitter.com/ross_ritchey Ross Ritchey

    The “just works” bull is part of the Apple distortion field, FYI.

    Apple computers haven’t just worked…. ever. They have some nice bells and whistles, but they don’t “just work”

    And the iPhone – doesn’t “just work” either. For the end user, the touch screen is unresponsive. For the developer, they are locked into a losing battle. For the network – they need to spend billions upgrading and still get flak for it. The only people the iPhone just works for is Apple and their Shareholders.

  • http://twitter.com/ross_ritchey Ross Ritchey

    Obviously Steve Jobs. Hands down. No competition.

  • http://twitter.com/ross_ritchey Ross Ritchey

    Uhm… yeah. RIM doesn’t have the biggest market share

    Android has more market share than Apple. – True
    RIM has more than double the market share that Android has – True

    RIM’s market share is falling – True
    Androids market share is growing – True
    Apples market share is growing – False

    Distortion fields go away when you look at the real numbers. Apple is good a marketing – this doesn’t mean they have the market share – and in fact, they don’t want the market share. They are getting plenty of profit off of the share they currently have.

  • Snake

    jail brake it. i have both iphone and bb and when iphone is jailbroke its amazing.

  • Moe

    I must admit Steve Jobs can be very arrogant at times. However, there was some truth to his actual statements. The facts are Blackberry does seem to be loosing market-share to AAPL/GOOG, no question about it. It is true however RIMM has a mountain to climb to play catch-up on the OS and apps store. Perhaps RIMM can prove AAPL and others in a few years you won’t become the next Palm. I hope not!

  • http://twitter.com/puec puec

    er… good.. but can you put OS6 on Storm 2 please?

  • Laudyemofio

    very well said…about time RIM set thr record st8. Apple thinks they got us all on a leash and dictating the direction of smartphone & tablet technology forgetting that its us consumers who have the final say. We all like the RIM approach, which is to listen to what consumers care about rather than the Apple approach, which is of a bossy nature. i.e this is how things should be and all that BS.

  • Dhadi46

    when BlackBerry PlayBook will be sell in Indonesia, especially Surabaya ?

  • madcorgi

    Who wouldn’t want to develop for the Blackberry browser on the new devices? And the Playbook is going to kick but with both HTML5 and Flash support. Apple devices break easily. I have seen too many cracked iPhone screens and am kind of annoyed with Apple’s hurdles for the development community. And another win for Blackberry. I can actually type on my Storm2. Typing on the iPhone is incredibly annoying.

  • Laudyemofio

    BB is far behind. Very true, but i only partially agree with you. BB needs to quit playing the catchup game and start being innovative. Bust some new moves people…lets achieve some uniqueness. for example BBM is a unique BB tool. Lets find something else for the average user to get excited about.
    With the OS, the lattest OS. 6 is actually encouraging and i hope RIM doesnt go back to sleep but rather keep pushing to surpass Andriod if possible.

  • UrbanKhoja

    Whilst we all appreciate you taking the time to post, did you actually research first? You’re forgiven if you were simply too busy playing with your Lego and train set.

    Anyone old enough to go see a film without the need for an abundance of ID would know the benefits of both devices. Yes the iPhone is a great piece of technology, but it’s not perfect by any means.

    The BlackBerry isn’t perfect either, it’s based on a terribly outdated OS and lacks the build quality of Apple products. But all that aside, it’s evident the BlackBerry is a better device and thus easier to get things done.

    Which device caused big shenanigans in the middle east as the governments couldn’t intercept messages etc? Ergo which device will be one that will keep your data secure? The BlackBerry.

    It saddens me that Apple consumers don’t have the mental capacity to see beyond the Apple slogans and advertising, I feel RIM ought to set aside a charitable trust to help them recover and educate them in the ways of BlackBerry.

    Lastly, I would like to think that Her Magesty will duly see Mr Balsillie and reward him with some form of peerage for his comment above. Jim’ll fix it anyone?

  • Neiluk2004

    DONT get bullied by steve jobs, we will not do what apple tell us !

  • msidh

    There’s a saying in India. When Elephant [BB] passes, Dogs starts barking on them.

    Love my BB 9700.

  • http://news.malufor.ch/?p=11520 RIM CEO antwortet Jobs: "Verzerrte Wahrnehmung"

    [...] gesagt zu bekommen, was sie zu denken haben." Den kompletten Text findet ihr hinter dem Quelle-Link.Read | Permalink | Email this | Comments Companies, Jim Balsillie, News, [...]

  • Laudyemofio

    Well, we all know where this is coming from…refering to Apple’s comments i mean. RIM just gave Apple a kick in the groin by releasing the Playbook which actually exceeds all expectations by far. They’ve been very calculating in every step and RIM is an absolute genuis for this reason. They got the size r8t, included all the specs that Apple overlooked and even managed to push the barriers even further. Now Apple must be furious behind closed doors and wishing they had really thought indept about their ipad specs. Too late Steve… Now what we will be seeing, is Apple playing the catchup game in the Tablet sector. No doubt ipad 2 coming early next year will be addressing a lot of spec issues, but RIM will always have one up on them.

  • Stuart

    Jim grow up. Let Apple service the consumarism culture and let RIM do what it does very well. If there is a population out there listening to Job’s quote figures twisted to his needs, and a population happy to consume closed off apps that can’t even communicate with each other, let alone devices outside the “Apple Distortion Field” let them consume. And we will keep coming to RIM when we need something that actually works.

  • Laudyemofio

    Hey…am with u on that one. I think its absurd to say the least that we BB Storm customers hve been left out to dry. We purchased the storm even when it was being bashed from left right forwards and centre. Now u would thing the storm would have been the first to receive an OS.6 update. If RIM doesn’t do something about the Storm, i am definately gonna go Android cos i want nothing else but the Storm 2. I dont want the Torch cos i think the Storm2 with the same OS will be far better.

  • Felix

    I agree, Apple is on a wrong and not user friendly way.

  • Vignesh

    CI_ads, Hi. I love Blackberry and have used all the models that they have ever released (except for the new slide one..!). Presently I use a BB 8520 and an Iphone. We can talk about the market share and how strong RIM is etc, but remember, BBs were in existence long before Iphone came to the market and Iphone marketshare is growing exponentially. RIM has to come up with more innovative solutions and better the browser experience. The quality and userfriendliness on an Iphone is absolutely amazing. Business users are more and more starting to move to Iphone, because once you experience the Iphone, there is really no looking back, be it rendering of images, speed and of course the apps. In my own circle of people, I have seen 4 diehard BB fans moving to Iphone. RIM has to be careful. Hopefully the Os 6 is better and may be more investment will go into enhancing the BB experience. Cheers.

  • Petra Ferdinand

    I am a user of Blackberry curve, and also iphone 4 in the same time… and both have their own strength… i like blackberry because BBM is make life easier to communicate to other, and especially in Indonesia, Blackberry almost take the whole market here, besides nokia try to catch up with it…. so i love both my smartphone… ^_^

  • Petra

    I am currently using Blackberry Curve and Iphone4 at the same time… i loved both… both smartphone has their own strength… for example… one of the things that i like in Blackberry is the BBM, is make life easier, its help alot with my communication with other blackberry user, whether in the country or outside the country… BBM is amazing, especially in my country Indonesia, blackberry almost take the hole market of smartphone… though nokia try to catch up with it… but besides that i there is something that i like from the Iphone 4 too… I loved both my smartphone.

  • Rmurray43

    Start shipping products and quit talking about it.

  • Wes

    Everyone is saying RIM has lost Marketshare, we’ll if you figure that all this old non smartphone customer are getting new phones, which are all smartphones now a days, and buying cheap android crap phones (not the expensives one) and that everyone and there dogs are making phone with android OS, then yes RIM’s marketshare in the smartphone market had to go down. Not everyone needs a smartphone and now are forced to buy one. So they buy the cheapest which make androids numbers higher. But I bet if a survey of the TOP OF THE LINE Smartphones from RIM, highend Androids phone, and IPhone, you would see RIM on top. with out a doubt

  • Dennycranium

    Its just fashionable to bash RIM these days. Record quarters of devices sold. More subscribers.
    Its about creating a stream of revenue for Rim and for the carrier.
    Not about pretty lights and apps.
    I sell all the smartphone platforms and the vast majority of them prefer a BB. I’ve had customers use a droid or Apple product only to come back to BB

  • http://www.facebook.com/roman.spantgar Roman Spantgar

    OK, where’s the LIKE button!

  • Dennycranium

    If my sales reflect anything- its that Rim is gaining ground. I sell smartphones throughout North America and my numbers show BB as the biggest seller.
    Feedback from my customers tell me they prefer the Rim product.
    I’ve had customers switch to apple or droid only to call me 3 months later asking to go back to Blackberry.
    Some people may feel that Rim needs a sexier or more “souped up” device in terms of processing but Rim understands the smartphone market. Its about creating a stream of revenue for them and for the carriers. Their sales results show this again and again.

  • Remo Liechti

    speaking for a developer point of view I must say that the blackberry api is not nice. It’s old fashion very limited java. on the iOs one has much better possibilities to design a proper architecture for the app.

    also, the new features from blackberry6 are jokes! I mean using the so called RichList which even cant react on events(!!!) which is one of the top features of JDE6, it’s just not usable. On the iOs one has better gui elements to achieve the same results faster, and more beautiful.

    I really hope Blackberry catches up there to:
    1) introduce better java technology like generics and proper lists as used in normal java. JavaMe is dead. The torch should have power enough to run a full java I think?
    2) catch up with the GUI elements to make beautiful screens (I mean, it’s not even possible as a developer to set the font color without hacking some paint methods…!)

    Never the less, BB has also it’s nice parts like Security and proper SQLite implementation.

    I think BB is going into the right direction with HTML5 but it’s just a mess that the Torch is not fast enough to deal with big HTML5 apps. Looking forward to the QNX phones.

  • Kiki

    What sucks on Blackberry is that you need this Blackberry option to use it. Here in Germany only the big providers offer this blackberry option and only in combination with data-packages which means 25 Euro per month at least. With any other smartphone you can use all options with any data-contract which allows you to uses the discount providers who are A LOT cheaper than the big providers. Of course for companies the blackberry option is very nice but for private use it would be cool to use the emailservice and blackberry messenger with prepaid. I would love to buy a blackberry if I could use it with prepaid because I don’t like those touch displays for iphone or android

  • Jkmp76

    Blackberry is the best smartphone in the world but its a shame that blackberry phones are not officially for sale in Finland and for exp. i hade to buy my phone from France so Rim please bring your phones for sale in Finland ASAP i wrilly dont like to see Htc and Apple smartphones in Finland the country that makes Nokia.Butt my next phone is again BLACKBERRY.

  • Roman

    RIM Apple complains but still multiple OS developer, today truly is the latest BlackBerry OS to choose, is outdated, hard and every thing you want to make RIM a restriction or limitation imposed by a brake on progress, not can say that Apple is closed without being yourselves, because your system is old and the most closed. Not to mention the OS 6 because it has only one device and not have boasted of taking to the other devices. In Apple not to do an application to work in 100 different devices, something that BlackBerry is totally common. For here we do as I say not as I do. First you see your mistakes and improve, not looking at the mistakes of others and continue to provide support so bad to people who bet on you, Worry about improving, this same opinion is that would give to Apple.

  • http://wallstreetpit.com/48760-rim-hits-out-at-steve-jobss-assessment-of-the-tablet-computer-market RIM Hits Out at Steve Jobs’s Assessment of the Tablet Computer Market

    [...] In Motion (RIMM) co-CEO Jim Balsillie in a blog-post blasted Apple (AAPL) CEO Steve Jobs, arguing that “many customers are getting tired of being [...]

  • http://twitter.com/goandychurch Andy Church

    Not supporting FLASH is akin to Microsoft last operating system not supporting all those win32 apps that third parties built. FLASH may have its downsides that presumably may improve over time, but you cannot ignore the considerable investments people have made in Flash. Apple really pooched it on that one. RIM made the right call on that one.

  • http://dukeswharf.pip.verisignlabs.com/ Duke

    “Y’all are good, honest people”

    RIM need to come clean with the UAE situation. What data exactly, business/personal, is accessible to the authorities in the region?

  • http://www.euandroid.com.br/2010/10/steve-jobs-recebe-mais-comentarios/ Steve Jobs: um tapa não dói, mas três… | Eu, Android

    [...] resposta a isso, Jim Balsillie publicou no blog oficial da RIM, uma resposta à Jobs: Para aqueles que vivem fora da visão distorcida da Apple, nós avisamos que [...]

  • Saurabhhindu

    why we dont have dislike option here!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • http://ceejayoz.com/ ceejayoz

    iPhones have real push e-mail.

  • http://appadvice.com/appnn/2010/10/google-rim-tweetdeck-respond-jobs-comments/ Google, RIM, And TweetDeck Respond To Jobs’ Comments :: App Advice

    [...] Oh, come on Jim – don’t bring Flash into it! Balsillie’s full statement regarding Apple’s “distortion field” can be found here. [...]

  • Anonymous

    Hello Xj2608,

    What seems to be the issue using your Curve at your house?

  • La

    Flash doesn’t get better….it forces you to update every month, it getting slower and slower, it has been the web worst nightmare for years. Flash MUST go, the technology to replace it is there. The only thing that should be kept about flash it’s is editor, which should be modified to generate the standard free and open format that search engines can read and index.

    The motives behibnd Apple’s motivation are highly questionable, but the idea itself is the right one.

  • http://www.eweekeurope.co.uk/news/rim-hits-back-after-steve-jobs-blackberry-attack-10768 RIM Hits Back After Steve Jobs BlackBerry Attack | eWEEK Europe UK

    [...] tablets will actually be a big portion of the market,” Jim Balsillie, co-CEO of RIM, wrote in an 19 October corporate blog posting, “and we know that Adobe Flash support actually matters to customers who want a real Web [...]

  • La

    I am a big Blackberry fan, but I think this view on Flash is the wrong one. Apple’s motivation to discontinue support for Flash on their device is highly questionable. They state some righteous comment about following web standards, but its most likely a stab at Adobe more than interest of web standards. (You can easily see their real view on web standards in their products….)

    However, Flash has been one of the web’s biggest problem (No semantic, no searchability limited accessibility). Open formats must be chosen instead of closed and proprietary ones such as Flash and it so happens that these formats exists. RIM should be investing efforts in developing and supporting SVG instead. If I am not mistaken, SVG is already used for the Blackberry OS Theme engine.

  • UrbanKhoja

    The BlackBerry Curve supports UMA, utilise that and it’ll solve your signal issues. The area in which we reside is rather bad for signal, UMA solves that however.

  • UrbanKhoja

    That’ll most probably be due to the fact you’re an Apple user, you have to spend so much time trying to justify why you actually need an expensive iPhone when a BlackBerry will do a better, more secure job and will last longer on battery life; thus you have little time left to remain up-to-date with current affairs.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_R3IIWNJZFOJRR3I4JVJTPS3CL4 Bob

    I’m glad I invested in Distortion Reality field stock… and of course my iMac which also runs Windows 7… rarely. Of course I’m sure you BlackBerry people are enjoying your stock choices too.

  • Icefyre5004

    I dont care what they do as company as long as my iphone is still the best phone out there,and it is….by far

  • St

    Blackberry Rocks

  • Jaq

    walmart does not qualify as a carrier , the carriers are AT&T, T-mobile, Verizon etc.

  • Ousiadroid

    Brilliant! Because of that Reality Distortion Field, Theres chumps out there holding the iPhone 4 funny trying to eek out every ounce of signal! Brilliant!

  • http://www.blackberrycool.com/2010/10/19/jim-balsillie-shoots-back-at-apple-ceo-steve-jobs-about-playbook-and-tablets/ Jim Balsillie Shoots Back at Apple CEO Steve Jobs About PlayBook and Tablets | BlackBerry Cool

    [...] Their manufacturers will learn the painful lesson that their tablets are too small.” In response, Jim Balsillie had this to say:“For those of us who live outside of Apple’s distortion field, we know that 7″ [...]

  • Alex Belucci

    Both BB and iPhone are great products. But if I was going to choose one, I’ll definitely choose a BB. iPhone is good for people who love themselves. But BB is good for people who love their friends and family.

  • Tennisbuddy9

    blackberry is booming because they are cheap. hell i got mine for 20 bucks the new curve. the lack of apps is ridiculous though and its just not as good as it used to be. they need to improve do something amazing. the iphone is good and fun. im getting one myself because of the lack of app and the bad os on BB. mine has crashed 3 times.

  • Suchit_sap

    Read almost all the comments….we are here comparing 2 products… based on different platforms….use different OS and are pitched to different set of customers… think about it…

    1.BB has always been termed as corporate’s baby… or at least at least it is perceived to be… has I-Phone been perceived so???No…. or has BB been perceived for retail guys… no…

    2.BB for older gen??? I am not too sure (As a matter of fact I was surprised to read it!! Iphone for younger gen… I am not sure either….

    I phone definitely has been building a mass customer base but aren’t the android based phones doin so too???… the reason is simple.. it is new and something different (guess thts where bb has taken a beating in the last couple of months)…..

    Iphone has x no of apps… who says bb doesnt hv ‘em???

    Finally…. I am a BB user and the main reason I bought it coz the dimensions are smaller than I-phone :D ..

  • Anonymous

    Hi Ugeneanthoneeamboy,

    You can try doing a web-based software update. To do this see the following link:

    Perform a web-based BlackBerry Device Software update – KB16068
    http://www.blackberry.com/btsc/KB16068

    Also you can do a reset to factory on a BlackBerry device, to do this see the link below:

    How to reset the BlackBerry smartphone to factory defaults – KB18998
    http://www.blackberry.com/btsc/KB18998

    Hope this helps.

  • JAIME s

    i have made money with both phones but honestly i keep my BB forever i dont think there would be a PHONE like BB i could communicate with my family and friends overseas you are only seeing statistics from US CANADA go to south america or go to Asia who is leading and you will see that RIM is the winner. overseas its not about a funcy phone is what you can do and how can you save money with those phones, and RIM is the answer i dont have to spend tons of money in data.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_JIHUENU4IWPQHI7KHHISVRBJ2U Kimo

    Do you work for BB? If you do that is great, you’ll be the talk of the office for 5 minutes. If not, I believe your comments would certainly classify you as a “follower.” Hope you don’t live in a glass house because you are throwing stones. And, to degrade someone you do not know and try to masquerade your comments with gibberish in an “undergrad” manner unveils some input into your social character. Don’t get me wrong I believe you have the right to feel the way you do, just try not to sound academic then finish the document with “Jim’ll fix it.” And use words that are applicable please.

    No person would receive peerage over a comment and I believe her Majesty would be quite upset to be acknowledged by the wrong word. Also please look up the definition of shenanigans, it does not mean problems.

    I agree with the overall message, just not the way you represented the cause.

  • Torsnow

    Lol, except you have to pay for a MobileMe account or use your GMail account to actually have access to push email.

    Neither is a better phone. One is better for a given user, another is better for another user. Why does everyone feel the need to cheer on their product manufacturer as if it was their sports team?

    Go habs go!

  • Eric M Smith

    I’m not sure what planet you are on, but it’s Apple that is NOW and will always be behind Blackberry. iPhones are for people who think Ketchup is the only condiment. No, it’s the only one CHILDREN will eat. People who go to work, go to work with Blackberry.

  • MichelleGD24

    Apple can only “tell people what to think” because they have proven themselves to have the best products in the world, and I say this as a Blackberry user. All my computer equipment and software is Apple, and after my 6 consecutive Blackberry freezes, I wish my phone was too.

  • Seb Hebert

    Why is it that I’m reading comments from people who don’t even own a blackberry or who have never used one? Why are those people on here anyway? Don’t they have anything better to do?

    Children… Doesn’t matter how “old” you are; you’re as old as you conduct yourselves.

  • Seb Hebert

    Hey, before you post anything else online, you might want a few English lessons.
    Your grammar is weak, and your reasoning is poor.
    Besides, why are you posting here anyway? Don’t you have hundreds of thousands of apps to keep your little mind busy?

  • Alex

    It’s right, Apple has 51 billion market distortion

  • inkompatible

    “a generation behind Andriod and iOS”?? “no one tech savvy uses a BB”?!?!
    You, are incredibly misinformed by today’s main-stream trends! An iPhone is basically nothing more than a toy that can make calls. Whereas, a Blackberry is an actual tool which people can actually use in their daily life. Aside from the fact that a blackberry smartphone is an IT phone used by many IT people (likely to be a lot more tech savvy than you), it is also being used by business people, executives and many more. This is for the simple fact that BB is exceptional when it comes to organizational abilities, call quality battery life, data encryption and push mail service (which no one still can compete with), multitasking which has been used by BB years before iOS and Android, and many other IT capabilities which the unprofessional market wouldn’t normally understand. Now, all of these virtues BB has are going to be even stronger. Especially, with the QNX system coming into play with future BB products.

  • BigRon

    The reason anyone will buy a BB pad is simple. It fits with the corporate policy. BB aren’t targeting the consumer, they’re targeting big business. If someone inside $fortune-500 can make a business case that they can take away laptops from their users, and replace them with a BBpad and a custom application that only does what the employee is paid to do, not *anything* else, then they’ll sell em by the containershipload. Whether somebody wants them for a “home” device or not isn’t relevant.

  • Daver27

    Blackberry has a better product hands down than anyof the others. What concerns me is the marketing. Even during the major league baseball playoffs, where Blackberry is a major sponsor, Rim would have an ad (which was really dull) and then a little later, Apple would have an ad. As a RIM shareholder, it worried me that I was bored by the RIM ads and the Apple ads perked me up, caught my attention, etc.

  • George Funovitz

    well said as far as comparing apple to blackberry not ever close blackberry is a much better phone anyday i have been in the bussiness for over 10yrs and day after day i have customers coming in saying CAN YOU FIX MY IPHONE just an over price toy lol on the other hand blackberry not too often … so i will end this with BLACKBERRY FOREVER KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK…!

  • Cook

    no. they actually don’t.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_CLR3KAHSRGJUXLZD74TSIBFAHI reece

    Oh look, Apple announces a new product, demos it being used, and makes it available for user testing on the showroom floor. Oh, and you can purchase the new product TODAY.

  • Jenjou Wong

    If youre going to make a product that cant fit in your pocket, why not just make it so that it physically makes reading documents or watching movies on it worthwhile. 7inches is neither nor there – inbetween a phone and a proper sized tablet, sorry but personally i think 7inches is plain rubbish and would feel stupid to have one especially if i was sat next to someone with a 10in ipad. good for girls who want something to fit into their pointlessly sized handbags maybe.

  • Pavo45

    Its the same old saga of sour grapes and greed! here you have Apple savagely defending their corner seemingly totally dependent on their loyal followers, just like the old VHS vs BETA MAX saga, only by cooperation of both ideas and development do we progress! to seek through profit and greed to corner the market only stagnates the product leaving it in a back water dispite it being essentially a superior technology, which eventially is left behind just as BETAMAX was.
    Come on Apple get with it your living in the dark ages if you think you can devlop totally exclusive systems. The human race has only succeeded through cooperation and sharing ideas, thoughts nand experience.

  • waldrondigital

    Both Campbells soup and Progresso soups are great products. But if I was going to choose one, I’ll definitely choose Cambpells. Progresso soup is good for people who love themselves. But Campbells soup is good for people who love their friends and family.

    See how retarded this comment is? You can make your own MADLIBs with it!

  • Dr_frogies

    you have to try the Torch.. Indeed!!! it has both way, touch screen and key pad. me my self would never change my BB with apple!

  • Dr_frogies

    you can buy it in jakarta…

  • Nigelacurtis

    RIM Do not TALK to their customers enough – they sit behind the carriers, who by the way all have Iphones

  • Distortion

    All I can see is a crap load of posts from people who really need to get a life… I dont give a rats about market shares, if you did you would be buying low end Nokia’s as they have the market, mainly because they are a phone first and would get a signal in a lead lined trunk at the bottom of the ocean. Me… I buy a phone I like the look and feel of…..

    Question for the Apple crowd… how many of the sales figures were people buying new versions of phones they already had for less than a year ?

    Wait till next year, I’ll put money down that Apple wil lmake an iPad with an even bigger screen and all the features it thinks (knows) it missed out this time round…..

  • Alex Wilcox

    Pity about the Torch. After 12 years as a BB user, starting with the green screen AA battery powered pager model, I have left for Anroid Droid 2. The Torch was unbearably slow and underpowered for its software. One week with the Driod 2 keyboard and OS and I never want to touch another BB. HAVING SAID THAT – the Droid 2 is a Motorola product, and they were dead for years. Perhaps now is the time for BB to go back to the drawing board and leapfrog the industry 3 years from now.

  • Alex Wilcox

    Pity about the Torch. After 12 years as a BB user, starting with the green screen AA battery powered pager model, I have left for Anroid Droid 2. The Torch was unbearably slow and underpowered for its software. One week with the Driod 2 keyboard and OS and I never want to touch another BB. HAVING SAID THAT – the Droid 2 is a Motorola product, and they were dead for years. Perhaps now is the time for BB to go back to the drawing board and leapfrog the industry 3 years from now.

  • Anonymous

    Misinformed? I have owned many BBs. The iPhone web browser is 10x better than anything BB has ever shipped. Push email with IMAP is instant, no different than an iphone. The iPhone4′s camera is incredible. Video conferencing. Thousands of developers writing apps for it. The iPhone display is 960×640, such high resolution that you can’t see the pixels. The new BB torch “iPhone killer” is only 480 x 360 – very limited now matter how you frame it.

    BB’s have been popular in enterprise because they were the first to have great exchange support, but those legacy days are long gone. Have you used an iPhone before?

  • Richel Esguerra

    i strongly agree with you T1, iphone is just a toy for me. No wonder kids and young adolescent liked it so much. Every manufacturer always targets sales, apple will definitely smile cause back on their mind it pleased lot of young generation. If their target is to treat apple as a toy, so be it, it’s their marketing strategy. They should not compete with RIM’s blackberry cause their’s no way to compare with the true essense of smartphones.

  • AwesomeGuy6000

    You are all stupid for arguing over iPhone vs. BB
    Buy both of them.
    Use both of them.
    Be fly.
    Like a G6.

  • afp

    You can get an e-mail and internetflat with blackberry option for 9,90 euro per month from vodafone DE. Have it for a year and i’m happy with it.

  • Nick

    I only have one thing to say, You sir are clueless. And no I am not a blackberry fanboy infact I use Android phones which I would glady chuck into the bin along with any apple product, just because of empty promises by Apple and HTC alike.

  • http://caspan.com Caspan

    Thanks Jim, I know RIM does not like to taker public stabs at other companies but its nice to see a response to these trash talk motives. As always people take numbers and just throw them around. No one does their research they just accept media as fact.

  • http://caspan.com Caspan

    Thanks Jim, I know RIM does not like to taker public stabs at other companies but its nice to see a response to these trash talk motives. As always people take numbers and just throw them around. No one does their research they just accept media as fact.

  • http://ceejayoz.com/ ceejayoz

    What does it lack?

  • http://ceejayoz.com/ ceejayoz

    What does it lack?

  • http://caspan.com Caspan

    Have you used a Torch? No I thought not our low screen res is undetectable by the naked eye but guess what our batter only has to power 153,600 pixels you have to power 614,400 pixels for some thing that looks the same when held 2 feet away which unless you are blind is where most people hold the device from their eyes. So guess what your screen has 4 times the resolution which equals huge battery drain for the same picture at 2 feet. It’s why my batter can last 4 days and yours only 1. Sure if I put my face to the screen I can see dots but who ever does that? So yes way misinformed you’re just a regurgitator of others opinions.

  • JoachimT

    I’m a proud Apple owner and I would never get a huge bulky RIM phone! Who really cares about flash? It’s crap in my opinion!

  • harris

    better picture? better resolution? are you talking about phones? go buy a real camera, duhh!

  • Brendan

    When you don’t know which to choose, pick both. iPhone 4 and the BB Torch 9800 babayy!!

  • http://caspan.com Caspan

    Mr Proud apple owner has no idea that his phone interface might not be programmed in flash but is the next think to looking like flash and he’s saying its crap. Again like Jim said Apple owners do have a distortion field just cause Steve takes it out then its for awesome reasons and it must suck. So now you are forced to view the web through a proxy program that does not allow you to see a real site but a dumbed down version of a site. Us web developers love doing twice the programming for you people. With the new PlayBook we don’t have to change anything so it will work with our device we get to view the web exactly the same as we do on our desktop browser. Just because you think its crap means nothing. More then half the web runs it so your opinion is of the minority and obviously

  • Dacapous

    Apple has fans you have customers
    Apple owns From chip to OS, content distribution, developers, billing, app store, retail Pos. You have gone half way.

    Apple

  • Mel

    To see an officer of a major company like RIM respond to Jobs’ sharing of numbers (which turned out to be true, conservative even: http://news.cnet.com/8301-31021_3-20020466-260.html?part=rss&subj=news&tag=2547-1_3-0-20 ) and findings of research that Apple conducted, in this manner seems incredibly unprofessional. RIM is a company that can stand on its own merits without resorting to this type of response which only makes the company seem less confident about its future products. This is something I would expect to see on Facebook, but not from an executive of a major company.

  • Mel

    The numbers weren’t wrong, as the article I linked to explains — they were for the same quarter. Nothing about what Jobs said was unprofessional — he was discussing sales on a phone call to investors that was leaked because people have a somewhat irrational interest in what he says. In response, the co-CEO of RIM released a PUBLIC statement that contained merely opinions.

    Blackberry customers who choose to turn a blind eye to the company’s weaknesses are only hurting it in the long term. It’s hard to argue that the user experience on a blackberry can even begin to compare to that of an iphone. Long startup times, messy apps, and an overall clunky presentation make the OS feel outdated. And that’s not even considering RIM’s attempt to make a touch device. The blackberry certainly has a role in the market, but it can only last on out-of-the box push email and security for so long as these are the only aspects of a blackberry that a reasonable, unbiased user of both could claim that blackberry has over it’s competitors.

    And for perspective, check on when these features were first introduced to blackberries. That is how much motivation RIM needs to innovate.

  • Nigelacurtis

    I totally agree… !!!

  • Nigelacurtis

    What a pity none of us can actually get one until 6 months after it is announced. But, of course, you can get to see one though, because all the Rim staff all have them – for months !!

    Rim’s Time to market “After the Hype” is way way too long -

    Cant buy it very soon ? – Don’t advertise it !

  • Biddie

    Unfortunately, my blackberry sucks, the support sucks!! The ceo probably can say all of this because after all the employees are scared of him and he will get the best support. The consumers however are stuck and can’t get any support!!! I can’t even get help with validating my pass code or email address!!! I am on my 10 bb!!! I really dislike the bb!!!

  • Mitch

    There is a solution for Storm users. It’s called the iPhone. You should probably have taken a little bit more of all that”bash”-ing of the storm before you purchased. RIM has not been able to put together a solid OS in all of these years, so why does anyone expect that they are going to be able to create a decent touch screen experience? Please at least get a droid. “Loyalty” to a company that refuses to innovate is bad for everybody.

    Leave biases behind, go into a store (or multiple stores) try out different phones, and buy the one that is actually pleasurable to use.

    I used several blackberries for years, but the incredibly long full start-up/shutdown times, unusable internet, unintuitive controls, lack of worthwhile third party support, useless desktop client and generally unresponsive OS convinced me to switch. I even chose to leave Verizon.

    While Verizon definitely had better service and I had to spend 5 extra minutes to set up my email so it would push rather than fetch, I’ve had a tremendously improved experience. My phone just always works, when I want it to and how I want it to. In fact, it’s actually enjoyable just to use. Nothing like this was ever offered by the blackberry.

  • Mitch

    There is a solution for Storm users. It’s called the iPhone. You should probably have taken a little bit more of all that”bash”-ing of the storm before you purchased. RIM has not been able to put together a solid OS in all of these years, so why does anyone expect that they are going to be able to create a decent touch screen experience? Please at least get a droid. “Loyalty” to a company that refuses to innovate is bad for everybody.

    Leave biases behind, go into a store (or multiple stores) try out different phones, and buy the one that is actually pleasurable to use.

    I used several blackberries for years, but the incredibly long full start-up/shutdown times, unusable internet, unintuitive controls, lack of worthwhile third party support, useless desktop client and generally unresponsive OS convinced me to switch. I even chose to leave Verizon.

    While Verizon definitely had better service and I had to spend 5 extra minutes to set up my email so it would push rather than fetch, I’ve had a tremendously improved experience. My phone just always works, when I want it to and how I want it to. In fact, it’s actually enjoyable just to use. Nothing like this was ever offered by the blackberry.

  • http://digital-news.net/2010/10/google-et-rim-reagissent-aux-attaques-de-steve-jobs/ Google et RIM réagissent aux attaques de Steve Jobs | Digital News

    [...] fulmine Andy Rubin n’est pas le seul à avoir publiquement répondu à Jobs. Sur un blog officiel, le co-PDG de RIM, Jim Balsillie, a tenu à revenir sur certains des propos tenus lundi 18 octobre [...]

  • Farhan89

    everybody just likes to beleive what they see on the internet, hey look somebody said blackberries are outdated and they are playing catchup!! lets all believe it!!

    honestly im from the younger group and most people i see have blackberries. i havnt seen anybody holding an iphone for the longest time.

    even on facebook, i cant even count how many of my freinds have their BBM PIN posted there.

    blackberry has always been popular and will continue to be! if you like to read stuff on the internet and just believe it, then go ahead! your loss!

    the new thing to believe is that iphones are toys! and you are told what to do by steve. why is he saying crap about 7″ tablets when samsung , rim, and probably everty other tablet maker is going to use 7″.

    GM might as well start telling us that sedans aren;t big enough and we should all buy their trucks and suvs… like NO! i want a sedan. (just an example.)

  • Anonymous

    Hi Biddie,

    Can you please describe the issues you are experiencing and we will do our best to support you and get them resolved.

  • http://caspan.com Caspan

    I love how people talk about the problems they use to have 3 years ago with phones.. Why don’t you try a Torch before bashing it? RIM is ever changing and to compare 3 years ago RIM to today’s RIM well just shows your knowledge of technology change. It’s like comparing a 4th generation iPhone to a 2nd generation one. They’re way different in reliability and applications. If you have an opinion make it informed or else you sound like the rest of the Kool-aid drinkers
    Steve Main
    steve@caspan.com

  • Wekkel

    Blackberries have nothing to do with Flash and all about corporate mass scale closed/secured system mobile e-mail devices.

    As actual end user, I would switch from corporate blackberry to corporate iPhone sooner than hitting this reply button, if offered by my boss.

  • http://caspan.com Caspan

    Its because your boss is smart! He understands what works seamlessly in the corporate network. Sure the other phones if you poke pry and 3rd party install software on the phone it might do 1/2 of what a BlackBerry can do out of the box

  • Mitch

    I had this problem 3 months ago (literally) with my brand new blackberry that had just been replaced. In my 3 years with blackberry devices I had to replace my phones 5 times. Also, before I bought a different phone I tried out the latest blackberries (as of late June 2010), and they were no different. After 3 years of constant frustration with RIM and sub-par user experience I switched after significant research and my own testing. So please do not attempt to tell me that I’m not informed. People who disagree with you aren’t necessarily wrong.

    So i’m not comparing new iPhones to old blackberries. And even if I were, let’s say I compare the iPhone 4 to the first iteration: the same basic things are there — a great user interface, great web surfing, and it turned on in under 10 minutes. Now might the Blackberry Torch have completely resolved all of these issues one month after they drove me from RIM’s phones? It’s possible, but the bottom line is that my 2009 Blackberry was a much less pleasurable experience than the very first iPhone. Sorry if I didn’t wait another 3 years for Blackberry to get these basic issues in check.

    So while your argument establishes that the newest blackberry (taking what you say as true) brings it up to par with an iPhone, your point is irrelevant. Especially when I was responding to a RIM user, who like myself, got sick of having deal with a second-rate OS.

    Blackberry has its merits, but it needs to start innovating rather than having to play catch-up if it wants to be relevant.

    Also, you’re the one arguing blindly behind one brand, I’m saying there are better options. Enjoy RIM’s Kool-aid.

  • Guest

    It doesn’t support IMAP IDLE, so it’s not true Push.

  • http://ceejayoz.com/ ceejayoz

    I’ll adjust the question. What does it lack from an end-user’s perspective?

  • Mjhspeed

    I love it. It is so nice to see someone spank Steve Jobs around like the little school girl he is. And not to worry, the iPad and iPhone will soon go the way of the MAC and Apple Computer – after inventing the PC and 35 years of marketing the overpriced, underperforming MAC was only capable of gaining 6% market share – and nearly B/K’ed them (through out Jobs lets never forget). PLEASE put out the Playbook – at least so we can buy if for Christmas (deliver it whenever).

  • Mjhspeed

    I love it. It is so nice to see someone spank Steve Jobs around like the little school girl he is. And not to worry, the iPad and iPhone will soon go the way of the MAC and Apple Computer – after inventing the PC and 35 years of marketing the overpriced, underperforming MAC was only capable of gaining 6% market share – and nearly B/K’ed them (through out Jobs lets never forget). PLEASE put out the Playbook – at least so we can buy if for Christmas (deliver it whenever).

  • http://www.andfed.com/2010/11/17/rim-ceo-apple-is-wrong-for-having-an-app-for-that/ RIM CEO: Apple is Wrong for Having an App for That « The top news headlines on current events from AndFed! News

    [...] control the ecosystem and maintain a closed platform may be good for Apple,” he wrote in an Oct. 19 blog post. “Developers want more options and customers want to fully access the overwhelming majority [...]

  • http://www.eweekeurope.co.uk/news/rim-boss-hits-out-at-apples-closed-development-13699 RIM Boss Hits Out At Apple’s Closed Development | eWEEK Europe UK

    [...] control the ecosystem and maintain a closed platform may be good for Apple,” he wrote in an 19 October blog post, “developers want more options and customers want to fully access the overwhelming majority [...]

  • http://gigaom.com/apple/poking-holes-in-rims-anti-apple-rhetoric/ Poking Holes in RIM’s Anti-Apple Rhetoric: Apple «

    [...] to be outdone, Balsillie snapped back on his blog; For those of us who live outside of Apple’s distortion field, we know that 7” tablets will [...]

  • Bizzytracker

    “We think many customers are getting tired of being told what to think by Apple.” – Agreed, Jim.

    We have another Microsoft in the making in the form of Apple Computers. I realized that when i had to sign a 65 page legal agreement just to install a free app!

  • http://findtut.com/poking-holes-in-rims-anti-apple-rhetoric-1318695 Poking Holes in RIM’s Anti-Apple Rhetoric | Findtut

    [...] Not to be outdone, Balsillie snapped back on his blog: [...]

  • http://www.design-city.co.uk/index.php/2010/11/apple-hiring-blackberry-enterprise-sales-staff/ Apple hiring BlackBerry enterprise sales staff | Design City

    [...] the BlackBerry and that smaller seven-inch tablets are a bad idea. In response, RIM co-CEO Jim Balsillie has accused Apple of playing fast and loose with the numbers and spreading disinformation about devices like its [...]

  • http://robertpallen.wordpress.com/2010/11/25/apple-hiring-blackberry-enterprise-sales-staff/ Apple hiring BlackBerry enterprise sales staff | robertpallen

    [...] the BlackBerry and that smaller seven-inch tablets are a bad idea. In response, RIM co-CEO Jim Balsillie has accused Apple of playing fast and loose with the numbers and spreading disinformation about devices like its [...]

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